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Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:01 pm Ouch.

We know about the clear handball for the first, but Happe was caught ball watching and allowed him a free fister.
Second - the guy who crossed the ball is all on his own. Ekpiteta isn't out wide - he's in the middle, so was badly positioned. And still, the cross should be cut out by someone.
Third - feel both Wright and Brill should do better. Someone running back (can't see who) could have tactically fouled the guy that brought it out at the start of the clip
Fourth - defence caught cold but just an utter balls up.

Highwood Man wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:20 pm Didn't realise that in amongst all the awful defending there was an astonishing miss from Alabi near the end. Should have been 4-1 for sure.

BIGRON wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:58 am

Highwood Man wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:20 pm Didn't realise that in amongst all the awful defending there was an astonishing miss from Alabi near the end. Should have been 4-1 for sure.

Astonishing miss it may have been but most of us at the ground saw the linesmans flag raised for offside , it wouldn't have counted if it had gone in !!

BIGRON wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:58 am

Highwood Man wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:20 pm Didn't realise that in amongst all the awful defending there was an astonishing miss from Alabi near the end. Should have been 4-1 for sure.

Astonishing miss it may have been but most of us at the ground saw the linesmans flag raised for offside , it wouldn't have counted if it had gone in !!

RedO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:27 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:01 pm Ouch.

We know about the clear handball for the first, but Happe was caught ball watching and allowed him a free fister.
Second - the guy who crossed the ball is all on his own. Ekpiteta isn't out wide - he's in the middle, so was badly positioned. And still, the cross should be cut out by someone.
Third - feel both Wright and Brill should do better. Someone running back (can't see who) could have tactically fouled the guy that brought it out at the start of the clip
Fourth - defence caught cold but just an utter balls up.

First goal - agreed with comments on Happe but Coulson does no better, stepping out when everyone else steps back in. There's no communication between the two of them. I don't get the sense they're playing as a partnership at all. Credit to Brill tho, does well to get up so quick for the second save and deserved better.

Second - can't blame Marvin, that's a set piece, nowt to do with him. Clay sets himself to defend the ball in but is miles away from the bloke, should have still been closing him down. Wright is too far out from the near post to defend that position effectively. Happe does have two men to deal with but they're both to the ball before him. Really really poor all round. Brill still should have got a hand on it tho.

Third goal - Clay lets his man run off him. If Wright was a proper holding midfielder, he'd have been over to cover that. But he's not. So instead their guy has a free run at our defence.

Fourth goal - Clay stands there pointing at Gorman to come off the post and go out to their two players with the ball. Scandalous from him. He's way closer and should have got straight at them. Literally no idea what Brill thinks he's doing with that though.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:42 pm What shocking goals

Red_Army wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:22 am

RedO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:27 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:01 pm Ouch.

We know about the clear handball for the first, but Happe was caught ball watching and allowed him a free fister.
Second - the guy who crossed the ball is all on his own. Ekpiteta isn't out wide - he's in the middle, so was badly positioned. And still, the cross should be cut out by someone.
Third - feel both Wright and Brill should do better. Someone running back (can't see who) could have tactically fouled the guy that brought it out at the start of the clip
Fourth - defence caught cold but just an utter balls up.

First goal - agreed with comments on Happe but Coulson does no better, stepping out when everyone else steps back in. There's no communication between the two of them. I don't get the sense they're playing as a partnership at all. Credit to Brill tho, does well to get up so quick for the second save and deserved better.

Second - can't blame Marvin, that's a set piece, nowt to do with him. Clay sets himself to defend the ball in but is miles away from the bloke, should have still been closing him down. Wright is too far out from the near post to defend that position effectively. Happe does have two men to deal with but they're both to the ball before him. Really really poor all round. Brill still should have got a hand on it tho.

Third goal - Clay lets his man run off him. If Wright was a proper holding midfielder, he'd have been over to cover that. But he's not. So instead their guy has a free run at our defence.

Fourth goal - Clay stands there pointing at Gorman to come off the post and go out to their two players with the ball. Scandalous from him. He's way closer and should have got straight at them. Literally no idea what Brill thinks he's doing with that though.

You've really got it in for Clay.

The fourth goal- everyone who has ever played football or knows enough about it knows that the post man goes out to the ball if it is played short.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:50 am RA him and dis have it in for clay among others, they've an agenda.

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:12 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:22 am

RedO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:27 pm

First goal - agreed with comments on Happe but Coulson does no better, stepping out when everyone else steps back in. There's no communication between the two of them. I don't get the sense they're playing as a partnership at all. Credit to Brill tho, does well to get up so quick for the second save and deserved better.

Second - can't blame Marvin, that's a set piece, nowt to do with him. Clay sets himself to defend the ball in but is miles away from the bloke, should have still been closing him down. Wright is too far out from the near post to defend that position effectively. Happe does have two men to deal with but they're both to the ball before him. Really really poor all round. Brill still should have got a hand on it tho.

Third goal - Clay lets his man run off him. If Wright was a proper holding midfielder, he'd have been over to cover that. But he's not. So instead their guy has a free run at our defence.

Fourth goal - Clay stands there pointing at Gorman to come off the post and go out to their two players with the ball. Scandalous from him. He's way closer and should have got straight at them. Literally no idea what Brill thinks he's doing with that though.

You've really got it in for Clay.

The fourth goal- everyone who has ever played football or knows enough about it knows that the post man goes out to the ball if it is played short.

Agreed, it's pretty normal for near post man to go out to the ball at a corner and far post man to shuffle across to the near post. Absolutely. But when that near post man doesn't react and you're 10 yards closer marking space, you don't stand there shouting and pointing, you react and do what needs to be done.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:39 pm Redo you do realise all these things are worked on during the week? Patterns of play? Responsibilities? Everyone knows their job and their responsibilities, you don't come off the pitch and say oh I didn't know, you'd get slaughtered for that.

Clay was telling the person who should be there to get there.

Milano wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:36 pm It looks as though Argyle didn't actually fashion a goal at all. Handball, luck, poor defending and luck again gave them four. Sometimes it just isn't your day. The two we missed (post and an Alabi special) were better build ups than any of PA's goals.