Independent Leyton Orient Forum

On Monday 21 Oct from 7pm live on BBC 2

Orient are ball 22

Who do you fancy

Ipswich or Sunderland for me

Would love to see a good Cup run ( new manager please take note ). Our victory at Fulham was one of our finest moments.

Would like the bye to round two, as opposed to the goodbye to round two.

I see the attraction of Ipswich or Sunderland up first, but I'd prefer two 'winnable' ties until we get to round three to get a shot at the big boys.

A bye please, £36,000 for not playing is fine by me.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:45 am On Monday 21 Oct from 7pm live on BBC 2

Orient are ball 22

Who do you fancy

Ipswich or Sunderland for me

Whyteleafe @ home or MK Dons away.
or Bye.

Don't want trip to Dagenham nor Southend.

Ultimately get into 3rd round and draw a top 6 team away. Or Stratford United.

RientO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:09 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:45 am On Monday 21 Oct from 7pm live on BBC 2

Orient are ball 22

Who do you fancy

Ipswich or Sunderland for me

Whyteleafe @ home or MK Dons away.
or Bye.

Don't want trip to Dagenham nor Southend.

Ultimately get into 3rd round and draw a top 6 team away. Or Stratford United.

MK Dons

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:18 pm

RientO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:09 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:45 am On Monday 21 Oct from 7pm live on BBC 2

Orient are ball 22

Who do you fancy

Ipswich or Sunderland for me

Whyteleafe @ home or MK Dons away.
or Bye.

Don't want trip to Dagenham nor Southend.

Ultimately get into 3rd round and draw a top 6 team away. Or Stratford United.

MK Dons

Huge ticket allocation there

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:45 am On Monday 21 Oct from 7pm live on BBC 2

Orient are ball 22

Who do you fancy

Ipswich or Sunderland for me

We'll probably end up getting a non league side away .

A bye would be nice but we will never be that lucky, so I expect a crappy away tie against not the most exciting opposition and we will limp out of the competition, ready to focus on the league.

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:19 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:18 pm

RientO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:09 pm

Whyteleafe @ home or MK Dons away.
or Bye.

Don't want trip to Dagenham nor Southend.

Ultimately get into 3rd round and draw a top 6 team away. Or Stratford United.

MK Dons

Huge ticket allocation there

I wouldn't give that outfit a penny.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:35 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:19 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:18 pm

MK Dons

Huge ticket allocation there

I wouldn't give that outfit a penny.

Don't think they sell tickets for a penny

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:35 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:19 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:18 pm

MK Dons

Huge ticket allocation there

I wouldn't give that outfit a penny.

Have you ever been to Glanford Park , Scunthorpe or The Emirates, Arsenal, or Ethiad, Man City, or Colchester? or any other club who did what MK Dons did, and move to a new ground? All MK Dons did was move further

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:19 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:18 pm

RientO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:09 pm

Whyteleafe @ home or MK Dons away.
or Bye.

Don't want trip to Dagenham nor Southend.

Ultimately get into 3rd round and draw a top 6 team away. Or Stratford United.

MK Dons

Huge ticket allocation there

Yep, Their attendance isn't so large, so pretty much no restrictions on getting a seat in the away end.

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:39 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:35 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:19 pm

Huge ticket allocation there

I wouldn't give that outfit a penny.

Have you ever been to Glanford Park , Scunthorpe or The Emirates, Arsenal, or Ethiad, Man City, or Colchester? or any other club who did what MK Dons did, and move to a new ground? All MK Dons did was move further

I've been to all those stadiums. I'm not getting into your stupid argument but no, MK Dons did not do what any of those clubs did (bar Arsenal if you want to go back to 1913).

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:38 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:39 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:35 pm

I wouldn't give that outfit a penny.

Have you ever been to Glanford Park , Scunthorpe or The Emirates, Arsenal, or Ethiad, Man City, or Colchester? or any other club who did what MK Dons did, and move to a new ground? All MK Dons did was move further

I've been to all those stadiums. I'm not getting into your stupid argument but no, MK Dons did not do what any of those clubs did (bar Arsenal if you want to go back to 1913).

So Scunthirpe, Arsenal, Manchester City, MK Don's didn't all move to new grounds?

Strangely enough, history shows they all did move grounds. The only difference being distance.

You may call it a stupid argument, but its factually correct.

You are a hypocrite if you are prepared to go to other new grounds, but not to MK Don's new ground.

The clubs all chose to move from one venue to another

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:34 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:38 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:39 pm

Have you ever been to Glanford Park , Scunthorpe or The Emirates, Arsenal, or Ethiad, Man City, or Colchester? or any other club who did what MK Dons did, and move to a new ground? All MK Dons did was move further

I've been to all those stadiums. I'm not getting into your stupid argument but no, MK Dons did not do what any of those clubs did (bar Arsenal if you want to go back to 1913).

So Scunthirpe, Arsenal, Manchester City, MK Don's didn't all move to new grounds?

Strangely enough, history shows they all did move grounds. The only difference being distance.

You may call it a stupid argument, but its factually correct.

You are a hypocrite if you are prepared to go to other new grounds, but not to MK Don's new ground.

The clubs all chose to move from one venue to another

It really is sad that you think that this is entertaining. I'm not getting into it and you will say it's because I don't have an answer which is obviously not the case, but that I have better things to do. Anyone with a brain will know the difference.

MK Dons shafted their fans for a start. Other clubs have moved grounds, including Orient, but without shiting on their fan base.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:39 pm MK Dons shafted their fans for a start. Other clubs have moved grounds, including Orient, but without shiting on their fan base.

It wasn't their fans- that's the point. It is to all intents and purposes the transformation of one club into a new entity. Both clubs now recognise this, with AFC Wimbledon owning the history of the linear Wimbledon.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:55 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:39 pm MK Dons shafted their fans for a start. Other clubs have moved grounds, including Orient, but without shiting on their fan base.

It wasn't their fans- that's the point. It is to all intents and purposes the transformation of one club into a new entity. Both clubs now recognise this, with AFC Wimbledon owning the history of the linear Wimbledon.

I suspect we are coming to the same conclusion but from different perspectives. the transformation left loyal fans without a club to support, the new club being a new identity.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:13 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:34 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:38 pm

I've been to all those stadiums. I'm not getting into your stupid argument but no, MK Dons did not do what any of those clubs did (bar Arsenal if you want to go back to 1913).

So Scunthirpe, Arsenal, Manchester City, MK Don's didn't all move to new grounds?

Strangely enough, history shows they all did move grounds. The only difference being distance.

You may call it a stupid argument, but its factually correct.

You are a hypocrite if you are prepared to go to other new grounds, but not to MK Don's new ground.

The clubs all chose to move from one venue to another

It really is sad that you think that this is entertaining. I'm not getting into it and you will say it's because I don't have an answer which is obviously not the case, but that I have better things to do. Anyone with a brain will know the difference.

Nothing entertaining about it. Simply stating facts. Its clear that you cannot dispute those facts because they are true. Each of the clubs I named have moved ground. Nothing more than that

Clearly the FA and the EFL agree as MK Dons have the football share of the club that previously played at Plough Lane and Selhurst Park.

Please explain what is incorrect with what I have posted, if you think I am wrong.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:55 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:39 pm MK Dons shafted their fans for a start. Other clubs have moved grounds, including Orient, but without shiting on their fan base.

It wasn't their fans- that's the point. It is to all intents and purposes the transformation of one club into a new entity. Both clubs now recognise this, with AFC Wimbledon owning the history of the linear Wimbledon.

As AFC Wimbledon were not formed until 2002 it is sentimental nonsense to say they own the history of a club that existed before then.

Whether you like it or not, AFC Wimbledon cannot have history before they existed.

AFC Wimbledon no more own the history of MK Dons prior to 2002 than FC United own the History of Manchester United. Both clubs were formed by fans unhappy at the actions of the Original Clubs owners. Those 2 clubs still exist and it is nonsense to claim they own the history of another club, especially one still in existence.

Basic logic shows a club cannot have the history of another club that happened before new club existed.

In the same way Accrington Stanley are not one of the original founders of the football league and Bradford (Park Avenue) in National League North are not the same club as the one that ceased to exist in the 1970s

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:36 am I see the attraction of Ipswich or Sunderland up first, but I'd prefer two 'winnable' ties until we get to round three to get a shot at the big boys.

This

Sarfend for me.

I'm amazed so many people choose not to want a bye and the £36k prize money this coming round