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dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:56 pm What we’ve done is move with the times and embraced modern technology and operating practices.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:59 pm Embracing modern operating practices which don't particularly work? True visionaries.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:52 pm Like, those of you who bang on about seeing us in the 60s and 70s. What did you do back then when we lost a few games? Genuine question. Did you call for a manager's head after a few bad results, or write them off after 10 games? Did you write to the local paper saying Jimmy Bloomfield had to go after losing a couple of games?

The phenomenon of chopping and changing managers is only a thing from the past couple of decades, fuelled by phone-ins and platforms like this and Twitter where everyone has a load off whenever they like. There's no statistical evidence that swapping managers every five minutes leaves clubs any better off and plenty of examples of managers who have done well to begin with and then turned out to be sh*t.

I understand why some of the younger fans who have grown up watching football in its current state and also grown up with the modern societal need and desire for everything to work immediately or be binned off as a dud might lack patience but really, what's your excuse?

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:56 pm What we’ve done is move with the times and embraced modern technology and operating practices.

And it’s not just the old who look back at past events, the young do too. It’s just we can look back further.

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:02 am I need to find my rose tinted glasses before reading this thread

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:09 am

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:52 pm Like, those of you who bang on about seeing us in the 60s and 70s. What did you do back then when we lost a few games? Genuine question. Did you call for a manager's head after a few bad results, or write them off after 10 games? Did you write to the local paper saying Jimmy Bloomfield had to go after losing a couple of games?

The phenomenon of chopping and changing managers is only a thing from the past couple of decades, fuelled by phone-ins and platforms like this and Twitter where everyone has a load off whenever they like. There's no statistical evidence that swapping managers every five minutes leaves clubs any better off and plenty of examples of managers who have done well to begin with and then turned out to be sh*t.

I understand why some of the younger fans who have grown up watching football in its current state and also grown up with the modern societal need and desire for everything to work immediately or be binned off as a dud might lack patience but really, what's your excuse?

Your comparison doesn't work because in the past we didn't have Directors of Football or Interim Managers. The Americanisation of the management structures at the club will be its downfall.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:59 pm Embracing modern operating practices which don't particularly work? True visionaries.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:53 pm Old fans on here do tend to be either the most overly dramatic or the ones that talk most nonsense.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:45 am

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:59 pm Embracing modern operating practices which don't particularly work? True visionaries.

Many don’t that’s probably true. But in my opinion life in general today is far better than 50 years ago (apart from the body falling apart). It should be remembered it’s this same old generation who have brought about massive changes especially in technology and to some extent attitudes in modern day living.

Look around, the influence of the old is everywhere. Most good. Some like world wars not so much. Every generation makes its mistakes. But today every person on this forum will get benefit from what the old generation have achieved. I dare say in 50 years time people will be able to say the same, hopefully.

The one thing us oldies can do that the Young cannot is look back and compare. Don’t knock it. The young have a habit of getting older too.

Real Al wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:47 am Ah, so those "Clarke out!" and "Eustace out!" chants were just my imagination then.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:52 pm Like, those of you who bang on about seeing us in the 60s and 70s. What did you do back then when we lost a few games? Genuine question. Did you call for a manager's head after a few bad results, or write them off after 10 games? Did you write to the local paper saying Jimmy Bloomfield had to go after losing a couple of

y o y o y wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:43 am

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:53 pm Old fans on here do tend to be either the most overly dramatic or the ones that talk most nonsense.

I had you down as a younger fan. My mistake

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:52 pm Like, those of you who bang on about seeing us in the 60s and 70s. What did you do back then when we lost a few games? Genuine question. Did you call for a manager's head after a few bad results, or write them off after 10 games? Did you write to the local paper saying Jimmy Bloomfield had to go after losing a couple of games?

The phenomenon of chopping and changing managers is only a thing from the past couple of decades, fuelled by phone-ins and platforms like this and Twitter where everyone has a load off whenever they like. There's no statistical evidence that swapping managers every five minutes leaves clubs any better off and plenty of examples of managers who have done well to begin with and then turned out to be sh*t.

I understand why some of the younger fans who have grown up watching football in its current state and also grown up with the modern societal need and desire for everything to work immediately or be binned off as a dud might lack patience but really, what's your excuse?