Independent Leyton Orient Forum

HavantO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:01 pm Embleton is out of his depth. Sooner he admits this the better.

eagwgw wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:06 pm We probably do. On the pitch last year, Jobi filled the void, but in terms of leadership he hasn't really been replaced.

That said, I think it would have been difficult to recruit big characters this season. The circumstances I think would have made it a risk, also I think the relative inexperience of Embleton is also a risk. Under Justin, you always felt he had the correct blend of being decent but also hard, and his status in the game afforded him respect.

HavantO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:10 pm I don’t really care who admits it. As long as someone does. It won’t get any better until we do.

redintheface wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:06 pm

HavantO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:01 pm Embleton is out of his depth. Sooner he admits this the better.

In fairness it’s not up to him to admit it , it’s up to T&T and the DoF to recognise it and act accordingly.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:59 pm Not saying this is the only reason as to why we are struggling but with an inexperienced touchline, we could do with some characters and personalities on the pitch. Especially as Jobi isn’t out there.

Out of this lot only really Coulson and Wright seem like they have something about them personality wise and even Coulson has looked subdued so far this season.

In the past, even if they were sh*t, you had fan favourites and some players who get the crowd going and gee up the players. Feels a bit dead out there and no one particularly likeable in the team as there has been previously.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:20 pm Supposedly when we lost to Swindon i offered an opinion that Swindon were pretty ordinary & blamed Clay for 2 of the goals they scoeed were a direct.result of him.

He comes on on Saturday when we are leading 2-1 & we draw, he comes on when we are level & we lose .

They said Swindon were a TOP team & would be iIN AMONGST it , but they were ripped a new one by Col U who before tonight were on the same points as us.

Now if JMD scores the penalty a totally different perspective is on the game.

Before Clay comes on we are in control although not dominating , when he comes on we are defending far far more .

Craig fella , you are not a L2 Midfield dynamo .

Pull your socks up or be honest & do one !!

Marvin , you need to read this as well !

We need Jobi back & Dayton needs to be fit, just to give us different options.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:09 pm

eagwgw wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:06 pm We probably do. On the pitch last year, Jobi filled the void, but in terms of leadership he hasn't really been replaced.

That said, I think it would have been difficult to recruit big characters this season. The circumstances I think would have made it a risk, also I think the relative inexperience of Embleton is also a risk. Under Justin, you always felt he had the correct blend of being decent but also hard, and his status in the game afforded him respect.

You add Charlie Lee and Jamie Turley into the matchday squad too and that makes a difference.

MrB wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:22 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:59 pm Not saying this is the only reason as to why we are struggling but with an inexperienced touchline, we could do with some characters and personalities on the pitch. Especially as Jobi isn’t out there.

Out of this lot only really Coulson and Wright seem like they have something about them personality wise and even Coulson has looked subdued so far this season.

In the past, even if they were sh*t, you had fan favourites and some players who get the crowd going and gee up the players. Feels a bit dead out there and no one particularly likeable in the team as there has been previously.

I’ll put my money on Jobi will be nowhere near the player he was last season if and when he returns!Like I’ve said before,to many players kept on for sentimental reasons and were paying the price

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:24 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:09 pm

eagwgw wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:06 pm We probably do. On the pitch last year, Jobi filled the void, but in terms of leadership he hasn't really been replaced.

That said, I think it would have been difficult to recruit big characters this season. The circumstances I think would have made it a risk, also I think the relative inexperience of Embleton is also a risk. Under Justin, you always felt he had the correct blend of being decent but also hard, and his status in the game afforded him respect.

You add Charlie Lee and Jamie Turley into the matchday squad too and that makes a difference.

Charlie Lee?

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:29 pm We missed Brophy’s width and sparkle tonight. Widdowson was shaky in defence. Our midfield trio all played reasonably well, Marsh was excellent and Gorman has nice touches, but they were all doing similar jobs. They need to gamble more.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:26 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:24 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:09 pm

You add Charlie Lee and Jamie Turley into the matchday squad too and that makes a difference.

Charlie Lee?

He was well past it but in the dressing room, and if you bought him on with ten to go, he’d be kicking people up the arse if we needed to hold on.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:40 pm Wilkinson impressed me. I’d not rated him so far but looked like he was angry today and maybe thrives playing up top on his own and bringing in others?

Ling was ok but Marvs getting a lot of stick for a cross that shouldn’t have got into the box...

HavantO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:10 pm I don’t really care who admits it. As long as someone does. It won’t get any better until we do.