Sam Gyimah

[Disoriented]

Another rat deserts the sinking ship which is the SS Tory Party.

Fantastic to see,

[EastDerehamO]

I'd be inclined to reserve judgement on that until one sees who wins Gyimah's East Surrey constituency come the next election.

[one o in huntingdon]

I'd be inclined to reserve judgement on that until one sees who wins Gyimah's East Surrey constituency come the next election.

SS Tory party, Freudian slip perhaps?

[slacker]

I doubt he’ll be the last one to switch before a GE, but like most of the other defecting Tory & Lab centrist sensibles, it will be a struggle to retain that seat for the Libs under fptp.

[Still's Carenae]

Another rat deserts the sinking ship which is the SS Tory Party.

Fantastic to see,

What amazes me is that the politics of the lib dems are so different to the Tories, how can anybody justify changing parties. It is as if you have changed your ideology.

However, many of these politicians are deciding that there view on the EU is more important than the politics they supposedly believed in. Which shows how shallow they are.

The other point which has been shown up, is just how weak (intellectually and a broad base of experience) our politicians are compared to previous generations.

[slacker]

Hmm. Obviously they are on different sides of the EU issue these days, but otherwise jumping from Blue to Yellow Tories isn’t so great a leap. I’ve always felt both one-nation Tory types and Blairites would be better suited to the Libs, but because of FPTP have plumped for the the Parties most likely to win seats and give them a career.

[RedDwarf 1881]

I doubt he’ll be the last one to switch before a GE, but like most of the other defecting Tory & Lab centrist sensibles, it will be a struggle to retain that seat for the Libs under fptp.

Exactly, there as good as gone . Every one of them a Remainer. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[Disoriented]

I doubt he’ll be the last one to switch before a GE, but like most of the other defecting Tory & Lab centrist sensibles, it will be a struggle to retain that seat for the Libs under fptp.

Undoubtedly, but what is clear is that the Lib Dems have real momentum building up with a clear policy. That and ditching Vince.

[spen666]

I doubt he’ll be the last one to switch before a GE, but like most of the other defecting Tory & Lab centrist sensibles, it will be a struggle to retain that seat for the Libs under fptp.

Undoubtedly, but what is clear is that the Lib Dems have real momentum building up with a clear policy. That and ditching Vince.

See whether that momentum applies to the electorate ..but if Lib Dems dont win at election they will claim seats anyway as their current policy seems to me to be ignore the wishes of the voters

[ComeOnYouOs]

So many Tories are defecting to the Lib Dems, the Lib Dems are becoming more right wing, and look a bit like the moderate tory party now.

The real Tory party is left with the really hard right wing types now. Wonder how many tory voters will continue to vote for these hard right tories now. I suspect most will.
This country is slowly lurching towards fascism little by little IMO

[o-no]

I doubt he’ll be the last one to switch before a GE, but like most of the other defecting Tory & Lab centrist sensibles, it will be a struggle to retain that seat for the Libs under fptp.

Undoubtedly, but what is clear is that the Lib Dems have real momentum building up with a clear policy. That and ditching Vince.

See whether that momentum applies to the electorate ..but if Lib Dems dont win at election they will claim seats anyway as their current policy seems to me to be ignore the wishes of the voters

You mean an opposition party has a policy at odds with that of the government - the scoundrels!

[Max B Gold]

So many Tories are defecting to the Lib Dems, the Lib Dems are becoming more right wing, and look a bit like the moderate tory party now.

The real Tory party is left with the really hard right wing types now. Wonder how many tory voters will continue to vote for these hard right tories now. I suspect most will.
This country is slowly lurching towards fascism little by little IMO

What is all this rubbish in reading on this thread. They Liebrals are the Tories second eleven and always have been, the dirty, stinkin, Yella Tory snakes.

[Disoriented]

I doubt he’ll be the last one to switch before a GE, but like most of the other defecting Tory & Lab centrist sensibles, it will be a struggle to retain that seat for the Libs under fptp.

Undoubtedly, but what is clear is that the Lib Dems have real momentum building up with a clear policy. That and ditching Vince.

See whether that momentum applies to the electorate ..but if Lib Dems dont win at election they will claim seats anyway as their current policy seems to me to be ignore the wishes of the voters

Really? 48% will disagree with that and many of the 52% too. Factor in also the lazy yoof who couldn’t be bothered last time who won’t make the same mistake again.

Wrong again Spin.

[spen666]

Undoubtedly, but what is clear is that the Lib Dems have real momentum building up with a clear policy. That and ditching Vince.

See whether that momentum applies to the electorate ..but if Lib Dems dont win at election they will claim seats anyway as their current policy seems to me to be ignore the wishes of the voters

You mean an opposition party has a policy at odds with that of the government - the scoundrels!

The problem is the party has policy to ignore & prevent the will of the majority vote in a referendum.

[spen666]

Undoubtedly, but what is clear is that the Lib Dems have real momentum building up with a clear policy. That and ditching Vince.

See whether that momentum applies to the electorate ..but if Lib Dems dont win at election they will claim seats anyway as their current policy seems to me to be ignore the wishes of the voters

Really? 48% will disagree with that and many of the 52% too. Factor in also the lazy yoof who couldn’t be bothered last time who won’t make the same mistake again.

Wrong again Spin.

There is nothing I said that is wrong.

The Lim Dem policy is to oppose the Implementation of the result of the democratic vote.

That is not wrong it's a fact

[Disoriented]

See whether that momentum applies to the electorate ..but if Lib Dems dont win at election they will claim seats anyway as their current policy seems to me to be ignore the wishes of the voters

Really? 48% will disagree with that and many of the 52% too. Factor in also the lazy yoof who couldn’t be bothered last time who won’t make the same mistake again.

Wrong again Spin.

There is nothing I said that is wrong.

The Lim Dem policy is to oppose the Implementation of the result of the democratic vote.

That is not wrong it's a fact

I said it depends on what voters you are referring to.

As I said - wrong again Spin.

[cockhat]

See whether that momentum applies to the electorate ..but if Lib Dems dont win at election they will claim seats anyway as their current policy seems to me to be ignore the wishes of the voters

Really? 48% will disagree with that and many of the 52% too. Factor in also the lazy yoof who couldn’t be bothered last time who won’t make the same mistake again.

Wrong again Spin.

Shame the 52% weren’t give the true facts about leaving. Boris is a bullshitte!! Of the first degree!


There is nothing I said that is wrong.

The Lim Dem policy is to oppose the Implementation of the result of the democratic vote.

That is not wrong it's a fact

[cockhat]

See whether that momentum applies to the electorate ..but if Lib Dems dont win at election they will claim seats anyway as their current policy seems to me to be ignore the wishes of the voters

Really? 48% will disagree with that and many of the 52% too. Factor in also the lazy yoof who couldn’t be bothered last time who won’t make the same mistake again.

Wrong again Spin.

There is nothing I said that is wrong.

The Lim Dem policy is to oppose the Implementation of the result of the democratic vote.

That is not wrong it's a fact

Shame the 52% weren’t give the true facts about leaving. Boris is a bullshitte!! Of the first degree!

[spen666]

Really? 48% will disagree with that and many of the 52% too. Factor in also the lazy yoof who couldn’t be bothered last time who won’t make the same mistake again.

Wrong again Spin.

There is nothing I said that is wrong.

The Lim Dem policy is to oppose the Implementation of the result of the democratic vote.

That is not wrong it's a fact

Shame the 52% weren’t give the true facts about leaving. Boris is a bullshitte!! Of the first degree!

I agree



Immediate recession

Immediate budget

Honour result etc

So many lies told by remain

[spen666]

Really? 48% will disagree with that and many of the 52% too. Factor in also the lazy yoof who couldn’t be bothered last time who won’t make the same mistake again.

Wrong again Spin.

There is nothing I said that is wrong.

The Lim Dem policy is to oppose the Implementation of the result of the democratic vote.

That is not wrong it's a fact

I said it depends on what voters you are referring to.

As I said - wrong again Spin.

You haven't actually engaged or challenged anything.

You just say I am wrong, but havent actually challenged a single point I make.

Could it possibly be because .....

[Disoriented]

There is nothing I said that is wrong.

The Lim Dem policy is to oppose the Implementation of the result of the democratic vote.

That is not wrong it's a fact

I said it depends on what voters you are referring to.

As I said - wrong again Spin.

You haven't actually engaged or challenged anything.

You just say I am wrong, but havent actually challenged a single point I make.

Could it possibly be because .....

The life and times of Spin part 105 ...

[Story of O]

Was he not one of the 21 kicked out of the tories so not a switch.

[Disoriented]

Was he not one of the 21 kicked out of the tories so not a switch.

Correct, thus making him free to move to a more principled party who will hold all the aces when we have our next hung parliament.

[Long slender neck]

Will people really vote lib dem again?

[Disoriented]

Will people really vote lib dem again?

They already are Lester.