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The government have published the document. Everything remainers told you plus a whole lot more, which was labelled project fear, is in the governments own paper
Its horrendous
how can any government put their people through this nightmare?

Theres a redacted part, which says there will be fuel shortages as well

https://t.co/je4I3IYDCg?amp=1

Project Fear mate, stop doing Britain down.

A responsible goverment presented with that should have cancelled Article 50 immediately.

Calm down grandad, it's a worst case scenario. (maybe)

one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:32 pm A responsible goverment presented with that should have cancelled Article 50 immediately.

The Government CAN'T cancel Article 50. That would require a vote of Parliament

People voted for the Nazis and like Coldplay. You can’t trust people.

Why don't they call it it's real name, "Operation Sledgehammer"? Apparently, this is the expected base scenario not the so called worst case scenario as they are spinning.

Ain’t gonna happen - the second referendum is coming.

spen666 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:49 pm

one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:32 pm A responsible goverment presented with that should have cancelled Article 50 immediately.

The Government CAN'T cancel Article 50. That would require a vote of Parliament

Think that would have been passed, sorry it was just a figure of speech.
Also give it a rest with the silly capitalisation please

Part of me just thinks it’s like kid asking to do something you know is bad for them. You can either tell them it’s a bad idea dm protect them from themselves, or let them do it so they learn not to be so stupid again.

Project fear, everyone without a spine implode now.... gutless .

Southcoastsoftee wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:08 pm Project fear, everyone without a spine implode now.... gutless .

Yeah, yer not believing hard enough, is yer.

somebody knows something because the overhead gantry signs on the A14, A12 and M20 (thats only the roads I have traveled on recently) are displaying signs saying "Paperwork for EU may change after 1st November - be aware". They didn't do that before the first Brexit deadline in March.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:56 pm Ain’t gonna happen - the second referendum is coming.

I think you could be right. Knowing what I know now, & seeing how disgraceful Tusk, Barnier & Guy Verwotshisname have acted & how treacherous & disloyal our Remainer MP's have acted & seeing after 3 & a half years of political unrest the fact out Country & Economy is still surviving. I will change my mind & vote leave, after I voted to Remain in 2016.
I love Europe but can't stand whinging left snow flake tw*ts.

I too will vote to leave having voted to remain, but for different reasons. There will be no peace in this country unless we leave, all the abuse will die down when it become obvious that we have many years of problems before the economy gets back on its feet. Like austerity we will never get back to where we were at the beginning, but the one saving grace is that the architects of the whole mess will be found to be a bunch of charletons and a Tory party will not be in government again for a hundred years.

Mikero

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:38 pm Calm down grandad, it's a worst case scenario.

Yep and it's out of date .

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:54 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:38 pm Calm down grandad, it's a worst case scenario.

Yep and it's out of date .

2nd August.

You reckon much has changed in a month?

EliotNes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:28 pm somebody knows something because the overhead gantry signs on the A14, A12 and M20 (thats only the roads I have traveled on recently) are displaying signs saying "Paperwork for EU may change after 1st November - be aware". They didn't do that before the first Brexit deadline in March.

Preparation

Bollox. Now I have to think up a different name for my debut solo album.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:10 am

EliotNes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:28 pm somebody knows something because the overhead gantry signs on the A14, A12 and M20 (thats only the roads I have traveled on recently) are displaying signs saying "Paperwork for EU may change after 1st November - be aware". They didn't do that before the first Brexit deadline in March.

Preparation

This is all about that if there is no deal then should you wish to drive abroad then your going to need to request a green card from your insurance company. The Motor Insurers Bureau will even have a 'desk' at the major ports to issue one as a last resort, but that will only be if your Insurance Company have agreed.

So there could be instances where people will book holidays, forget they need a green card, rock up at the port to be told they can't travel. And it won't be like one could be emailed over as the system is still archaic enough to not accept digital versions.

O my gawd wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:37 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:56 pm Ain’t gonna happen - the second referendum is coming.

I think you could be right. Knowing what I know now, & seeing how disgraceful Tusk, Barnier & Guy Verwotshisname have acted & how treacherous & disloyal our Remainer MP's have acted & seeing after 3 & a half years of political unrest the fact out Country & Economy is still surviving. I will change my mind & vote leave, after I voted to Remain in 2016.
I love Europe but can't stand whinging left snow flake tw*ts.

trouble is O the wording will probably stitch the leave vote up.

The OY document just released is the same as that leaked to the Sunday Times last month, albeit with point 15 (about likely panic & chaos around petrol shortages) strangely redacted. The intrigue is the change in the heading from “base case” to “worst case” between now and then. Someone in No 10 is still spinning and lying...

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:05 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:54 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:38 pm Calm down grandad, it's a worst case scenario.

Yep and it's out of date .

2nd August.

You reckon much has changed in a month?

Only repeating what I heard Gove say on the radio . It’s the absolute worst case scenario. It’s not going to happen. That’s what I love about you Remainer’s , you love a bit of hysteria.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:20 am

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:05 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:54 pm

Yep and it's out of date .

2nd August.

You reckon much has changed in a month?

Only repeating what I heard Gove say on the radio . It’s the absolute worst case scenario. It’s not going to happen. That’s what I love about you Remainer’s , you love a bit of hysteria.

Again this is the problem with Brexiteers who play fast and loose with language. The report is not an absolute worst case scenario. The report talks about a reasonable worst case scenario. A big difference.

A worst case scenario could be worse than what is described in Yellowhammer.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:20 am

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:05 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:54 pm

Yep and it's out of date .

2nd August.

You reckon much has changed in a month?

Only repeating what I heard Gove say on the radio . It’s the absolute worst case scenario. It’s not going to happen. That’s what I love about you Remainer’s , you love a bit of hysteria.

Ah, if Gove said it, then that's fine with me.

Just a couple of things, though.

1) I'm not a remainer. (I am, however, a realist).

2) As slacker has pointed out above, this document was entitled 'Base Case' when initially leaked last month. As in this is the starting point, the expected scenario. It was changed to 'Worst Case' when the government were forced to release it.