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Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:06 am
by Byways1
After what has happened over the last few years in lower league football l feel it may need a bit of 1980s Thatcherism.
Overmanned, unproductive,loss making, poorly managed, all the symptoms of British industry in the 1980s.Lower league football is much the same in many cases.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:20 am
by Scuba Diver
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:06 am
Overmanned, unproductive,loss making, poorly managed, all the symptoms of British industry in the 1980s.
Sounds more like the 70's. Which is why our car industry (for one) went to the wall; as foreign (and UK) buyers deserted in droves- refusing to buy sub-standard products from an unreliable and incompetent workforce strangled by the Unions.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:24 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:06 am
Overmanned, unproductive,loss making, poorly managed
Sounds like our banking system, which survived on a huge bail out. Ahhh capitalism.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:26 pm
by Clive Evans
Ah yes! I remember her. The lady who knew all about Football & working class 'oolies. Isn't she the one who banned standing on the terraces?
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:48 pm
by Byways1
West Side Story wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:26 pm
Ah yes! I remember her. The lady who knew all about Football & working class 'oolies. Isn't she the one who banned standing on the terraces?
No.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:51 pm
by Byways1
Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:20 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:06 am
Overmanned, unproductive,loss making, poorly managed, all the symptoms of British industry in the 1980s.
Sounds more like the 70's. Which is why our car industry (for one) went to the wall; as foreign (and UK) buyers deserted in droves- refusing to buy sub-standard products from an unreliable and incompetent workforce strangled by the Unions.
Incompetent useless lazy managers.
The Japanese recognise Unions and don’t seem to have a problem.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:07 am
by Mikero
Thatchers last foray into football was to lean on the FA so that her fellow MP and friend David Evans could have a sub standard plastic pitch at Luton Town FC and ban away fans from the ground.
Mikero
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:45 am
by Disoriented
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:51 pm
Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:20 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:06 am
Overmanned, unproductive,loss making, poorly managed, all the symptoms of British industry in the 1980s.
Sounds more like the 70's. Which is why our car industry (for one) went to the wall; as foreign (and UK) buyers deserted in droves- refusing to buy sub-standard products from an unreliable and incompetent workforce strangled by the Unions.
Incompetent useless lazy managers.
The Japanese recognise Unions and don’t seem to have a problem.
They didn’t recognise ‘em in 1942 fella. My uncle was in Singapore as a union rep and negotiations over a pay rise didn’t go well.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:04 pm
by EH16
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:45 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:51 pm
Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:20 am
Sounds more like the 70's. Which is why our car industry (for one) went to the wall; as foreign (and UK) buyers deserted in droves- refusing to buy sub-standard products from an unreliable and incompetent workforce strangled by the Unions.
Incompetent useless lazy managers.
The Japanese recognise Unions and don’t seem to have a problem.
They didn’t recognise ‘em in 1942 fella. My uncle was in Singapore as a union rep and negotiations over a pay rise didn’t go well.
Hi. In case you hadn't noticed that war's been over for a while now.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:07 pm
by Byways1
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:04 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:45 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:51 pm
Incompetent useless lazy managers.
The Japanese recognise Unions and don’t seem to have a problem.
They didn’t recognise ‘em in 1942 fella. My uncle was in Singapore as a union rep and negotiations over a pay rise didn’t go well.
Hi. In case you hadn't noticed that war's been over for a while now.
Expect him to surrender anytime soon.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:09 pm
by Disoriented
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:04 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:45 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:51 pm
Incompetent useless lazy managers.
The Japanese recognise Unions and don’t seem to have a problem.
They didn’t recognise ‘em in 1942 fella. My uncle was in Singapore as a union rep and negotiations over a pay rise didn’t go well.
Hi. In case you hadn't noticed that war's been over for a while now.
Great to see you belittling those who gave their service to our country.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:11 pm
by EH16
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:09 pm
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:04 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:45 am
They didn’t recognise ‘em in 1942 fella. My uncle was in Singapore as a union rep and negotiations over a pay rise didn’t go well.
Hi. In case you hadn't noticed that war's been over for a while now.
Great to see you belittling those who gave their service to our country.
Absolutely classic social media. Instead of just accepting you posted something that makes you look a fool you try to deflect the discussion by implying something I DID NOT SAY. Please feel free to continue looking like an idiot though.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:12 pm
by Byways1
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:09 pm
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:04 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:45 am
They didn’t recognise ‘em in 1942 fella. My uncle was in Singapore as a union rep and negotiations over a pay rise didn’t go well.
Hi. In case you hadn't noticed that war's been over for a while now.
Great to see you belittling those who gave their service to our country.
In all fairness I think you was the one who started that.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:20 pm
by Disoriented
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:11 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:09 pm
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:04 pm
Hi. In case you hadn't noticed that war's been over for a while now.
Great to see you belittling those who gave their service to our country.
Absolutely classic social media. Instead of just accepting you posted something that makes you look a fool you try to deflect the discussion by implying something I DID NOT SAY. Please feel free to continue looking like an idiot though.
Uncle Jim was no fool fella - clear to see that you may have ‘moved on’. Others find it impossible to.
I have a number of Jewish friends whose parents came to the UK after the Holocaust. Try telling them ‘the war’s been over for a while now’.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:28 pm
by EH16
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:20 pm
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:11 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:09 pm
Great to see you belittling those who gave their service to our country.
Absolutely classic social media. Instead of just accepting you posted something that makes you look a fool you try to deflect the discussion by implying something I DID NOT SAY. Please feel free to continue looking like an idiot though.
Uncle Jim was no fool fella - clear to see that you may have ‘moved on’. Others find it impossible to.
I have a number of Jewish friends whose parents came to the UK after the Holocaust. Try telling them ‘the war’s been over for a while now’.
Wow, pleased to see that you took my advice to carry on looking like an idiot.
I have no frame of reference as to whether or not Uncle Jim was a fool. That's why I DID NOT SAY THAT. I said YOU were a fool, not at all the same thing.
As to your second point if you can put me in touch with these friends of yours I'll be only too happy to clarify, for anyone who's not yet aware, that the war is over. This, of course, is NOT the same thing as disregarding or belittling the horror of what happened during the course of that conflict. Only a COMPLETE FOOL would equate those two things.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:59 pm
by slacker
80 years ago today that Nazi Germany invaded Poland, btw. What happened in Eastern Europe after that dwarfed the suffering and deaths we always hear about from an Anglocentric perspective.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:25 pm
by Disoriented
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:28 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:20 pm
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:11 pm
Absolutely classic social media. Instead of just accepting you posted something that makes you look a fool you try to deflect the discussion by implying something I DID NOT SAY. Please feel free to continue looking like an idiot though.
Uncle Jim was no fool fella - clear to see that you may have ‘moved on’. Others find it impossible to.
I have a number of Jewish friends whose parents came to the UK after the Holocaust. Try telling them ‘the war’s been over for a while now’.
Wow, pleased to see that you took my advice to carry on looking like an idiot.
I have no frame of reference as to whether or not Uncle Jim was a fool. That's why I DID NOT SAY THAT. I said YOU were a fool, not at all the same thing.
As to your second point if you can put me in touch with these friends of yours I'll be only too happy to clarify, for anyone who's not yet aware, that the war is over. This, of course, is NOT the same thing as disregarding or belittling the horror of what happened during the course of that conflict. Only a COMPLETE FOOL would equate those two things.
Sad to see you show a lack of comprehension of most points. Resorting to shouting and name-calling reveals your frothing at the mouth moments, rather than considering that making glib asides about the war being over may be insensitive to some who are still yet to forgive and forget.
Equate that fella, or do I need to capitalise it for you.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:10 pm
by The Mindsweep
This thread makes me yearn for the glory days of the MB. It's so sad that it's ended up like this.
Re: Thatcherism/Football
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:40 am
by EH16
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:25 pm
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:28 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:20 pm
Uncle Jim was no fool fella - clear to see that you may have ‘moved on’. Others find it impossible to.
I have a number of Jewish friends whose parents came to the UK after the Holocaust. Try telling them ‘the war’s been over for a while now’.
Wow, pleased to see that you took my advice to carry on looking like an idiot.
I have no frame of reference as to whether or not Uncle Jim was a fool. That's why I DID NOT SAY THAT. I said YOU were a fool, not at all the same thing.
As to your second point if you can put me in touch with these friends of yours I'll be only too happy to clarify, for anyone who's not yet aware, that the war is over. This, of course, is NOT the same thing as disregarding or belittling the horror of what happened during the course of that conflict. Only a COMPLETE FOOL would equate those two things.
Sad to see you show a lack of comprehension of most points. Resorting to shouting and name-calling reveals your frothing at the mouth moments, rather than considering that making glib asides about the war being over may be insensitive to some who are still yet to forgive and forget.
Equate that fella, or do I need to capitalise it for you.
I was using capitals to highligh the essential points as I thought, wrongly as it turns out, that it might aid your understanding. The statement that the second world war is over is simple fact. I did mention that this is different from forgetting what happened during it but it doesn't suit your idiotic discourse to recognise that.
Anyway, as I said if you want to put me in touch with these friends, on whose behalf you are so outraged, I'd be happy to discuss it direct.