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How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 3:17 pm
by Long slender neck
Its obviously still a problem.
If we dont have the height and strength theres not much we can do about it now.
Should Keeley just be trying to punch it?
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 3:28 pm
by DrWindy
All eleven back, players on posts. Maybe zonal marking might work better. Maybe…
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 3:38 pm
by i8ubutler
Jump high and head the ball away from goal.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 3:41 pm
by Long slender neck
Could we barricade the goal line with players, leave Keeley in front to try and catch/punch it? I think there'd in evitably be a foul on Keeley which the ref would then have a pretty clear view of.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 3:53 pm
by Stamford O
Keeley did try and punch couple of crosses at huddersfield, wasn't the best punches but at .least he got enough on ball to divert ball away
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 3:56 pm
by Hoover Attack
Have Beckles and Cooper etc marking their biggest players.
Get shortest/lightest players - Kelman/Markandy/Galbraith etc to sit on the shoulders of medium players - Agyei/Brown/Donley etc lined up along the six yard box zonally at front post, middle of goal, and far post.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 4:38 pm
by The Reverend
Not giving away silly free kicks in the first place would be a good start.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 4:38 pm
by StillSpike
Corners and set pieces nowadays seem to be more like coordinated wrestling moves than they ever did.
Some of the attacking moves are like NFL plays, with multiple blockers trying to avoid the ref's eye.
I wish the authorities could crack down on it, you almost never see a goal from a corner without also seeing a missed foul somewhere in the area.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 4:42 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Keeley on Coopers shoulders I reckon and get Galbraith to bite a few peoples legs
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 4:44 pm
by Hoover Attack
StillSpike wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 4:38 pm
Corners and set pieces nowadays seem to be more like coordinated wrestling moves than they ever did.
Some of the attacking moves are like NFL plays, with multiple blockers trying to avoid the ref's eye.
I wish the authorities could crack down on it, you almost never see a goal from a corner without also seeing a missed foul somewhere in the area.
Totally.
I called out their penalty on Saturday - Horsfall was clearly climbing on the back of REG. Anywhere else on the pitch, that's a foul, but in the box it's ok. Same with Omar sticking Horsfall in a headlock - of course it's a foul.
I have no idea why they let go incidents that would be a free kick anywhere else on the pitch. It's not in the laws.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 4:45 pm
by Hoover Attack
And whilst we're at it, the stupid blocking off at kick offs. Of course that is obstruction. And pulling the strikers arm as he runs past you. That's a free kick too.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 6:35 pm
by LeighO
Or the strikers shirt as the keeper did to Kelman Saturday to prevent him closing down the defenders.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 10:47 am
by BoniO
Have a free player who attacks the ball as it comes into the area.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 10:51 am
by OyinbO
If I knew the answer to this I'd be a millionaire, so to speak.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 10:54 am
by Max B Gold
We should just try not to foul the opposition players and concede fewer corners. That way the set piece threat can be minimised.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 10:59 am
by Max B Gold
Having minimised the set piece threat I find that very early in the game a punch to the kidneys of the main threat as everyone is watching the ball coming in quite often distracts the attacker and discourages future behaviour.
Of course care needs to be taken to avoid the prying eyes of the match officials and it may be necessary to employ an accomplice to block their view.
Important to note that with the prying eyes of a grassing VAR system in place for the final the above mentioned method may be redundant.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 11:15 am
by OyinbO
If I were a hilariously under-qualified person writing on an internet message board, masquerading as a football manager, I would simply score more goals than the opposing team.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 11:28 am
by Hoover Attack
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 10:59 am
Having minimised the set piece threat I find that very early in the game a punch to the kidneys of the main threat as everyone is watching the ball coming in quite often distracts the attacker and discourages future behaviour.
Of course care needs to be taken to avoid the prying eyes of the match officials and it may be necessary to employ an accomplice to block their view.
Important to note that with the prying eyes of a grassing VAR system in place for the final the above mentioned method may be redundant.
This is what Peter Beardsley meant in 1990 when he rapped about them hitting and hurting you?
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 11:39 am
by Max B Gold
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 11:28 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 10:59 am
Having minimised the set piece threat I find that very early in the game a punch to the kidneys of the main threat as everyone is watching the ball coming in quite often distracts the attacker and discourages future behaviour.
Of course care needs to be taken to avoid the prying eyes of the match officials and it may be necessary to employ an accomplice to block their view.
Important to note that with the prying eyes of a grassing VAR system in place for the final the above mentioned method may be redundant.
This is what Peter Beardsley meant in 1990 when he rapped about them hitting and hurting you?
Probably, he was a notorious cry baby.
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 12:55 pm
by faith1234
Play 4 at the back
Re: How should we deal with set pieces/balls in the box?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 10:09 pm
by gshaw
In the fashion of many of the football coaching videos I see on socials these days
Don't do this: defender misses ball, attacker heads it in
Do this: defender heads the ball and clears it