ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:26 am
In ross s interview yesterday he said an ex player was slagging off sam ling, any idea who that is, why is there so much protection over him.
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Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:35 am
Kevin Dickenson on The O's Show. Basically said he can't defend to save his life & didn't offer anything going forward.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:50 am
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:58 am
This should feed some of the Ling bashers a nice big wum breakfast
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:04 am
A bit harsh, but it is true he offers little going forward (the same is true for Widdowson).
Also true that he was at fault for a few goals last year and partially the formation changed to reduce his exposure. I don't see why the club big him up using injuries as an excuse, unnecessarily risky when we could have got a loan in to cover.
I also disagree with Ross that he has been 'outstanding'. Nobody has been outstanding this season, we have lost three out of six games after all. Good is perhaps a more accurate word, so describing it like this only reinforces belief that the club over-do praise when it comes to him, perhaps as a counter to the over-reactions when it comes to criticism.
Last player to be hounded as much from the crowd was Jake Caprice, club didn't defend him at all despite it not being all his fault, and towards the end of the season he was Boco'd to make way for Ling. Ironically Caprice would have probably worked really well for us as it turned out.
Just want fair treatment for players. Judd was out of contract last season, the jury was out due to a poor injury hit season before, he didn't get a new deal until February when he had played well across a long stretch of 20 League games. It should be the same for Ling.
IMO we could improve on both. In the old League Two days we had Matty Joseph at right-back, no reason why we couldn't sign a 2020 equivalent.
Also true that he was at fault for a few goals last year and partially the formation changed to reduce his exposure. I don't see why the club big him up using injuries as an excuse, unnecessarily risky when we could have got a loan in to cover.
I also disagree with Ross that he has been 'outstanding'. Nobody has been outstanding this season, we have lost three out of six games after all. Good is perhaps a more accurate word, so describing it like this only reinforces belief that the club over-do praise when it comes to him, perhaps as a counter to the over-reactions when it comes to criticism.
Last player to be hounded as much from the crowd was Jake Caprice, club didn't defend him at all despite it not being all his fault, and towards the end of the season he was Boco'd to make way for Ling. Ironically Caprice would have probably worked really well for us as it turned out.
Just want fair treatment for players. Judd was out of contract last season, the jury was out due to a poor injury hit season before, he didn't get a new deal until February when he had played well across a long stretch of 20 League games. It should be the same for Ling.
IMO we could improve on both. In the old League Two days we had Matty Joseph at right-back, no reason why we couldn't sign a 2020 equivalent.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:25 am
I was surprised when he made those comments. Not very professional. No doubts about his views on Ling and to a degree one shared by many, but an Orient radio show followed by fans is not the place.
Poor form and I sincerely hope the show made their thoughts known too afterwards, in private of course.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:33 am
Agree, thoughts he should have not viewed on the Orient radio show.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:25 amI was surprised when he made those comments. Not very professional. No doubts about his views on Ling and to a degree one shared by many, but an Orient radio show followed by fans is not the place.
Poor form and I sincerely hope the show made their thoughts known too afterwards, in private of course.
Rather humiliating for Sam and also his father to hear that sort of thing.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:34 am
A show for opinions where one can only be blinkered and talk about how wonderful everything is?Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:33 amAgree, thoughts he should have not viewed on the Orient radio show.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:25 amI was surprised when he made those comments. Not very professional. No doubts about his views on Ling and to a degree one shared by many, but an Orient radio show followed by fans is not the place.
Poor form and I sincerely hope the show made their thoughts known too afterwards, in private of course.
Rather humiliating for Sam and also his father to hear that sort of thing.
I don't necessarily agree with the comments but I think he has the right to say them if asked.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:38 am
I'd say yes & very unfair considering how well he has started the season.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:40 am
He's probably got the hump as him & Andy Gilson got the boot from the commentating gigMassiveForehead wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:34 amA show for opinions where one can only be blinkered and talk about how wonderful everything is?Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:33 amAgree, thoughts he should have not viewed on the Orient radio show.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:25 am
I was surprised when he made those comments. Not very professional. No doubts about his views on Ling and to a degree one shared by many, but an Orient radio show followed by fans is not the place.
Poor form and I sincerely hope the show made their thoughts known too afterwards, in private of course.
Rather humiliating for Sam and also his father to hear that sort of thing.
I don't necessarily agree with the comments but I think he has the right to say them if asked.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:42 am
I always liked Mark Warren, shame he never realised his potentialeagwgw wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:04 am A bit harsh, but it is true he offers little going forward (the same is true for Widdowson).
Also true that he was at fault for a few goals last year and partially the formation changed to reduce his exposure. I don't see why the club big him up using injuries as an excuse, unnecessarily risky when we could have got a loan in to cover.
I also disagree with Ross that he has been 'outstanding'. Nobody has been outstanding this season, we have lost three out of six games after all. Good is perhaps a more accurate word, so describing it like this only reinforces belief that the club over-do praise when it comes to him, perhaps as a counter to the over-reactions when it comes to criticism.
Last player to be hounded as much from the crowd was Jake Caprice, club didn't defend him at all despite it not being all his fault, and towards the end of the season he was Boco'd to make way for Ling. Ironically Caprice would have probably worked really well for us as it turned out.
Just want fair treatment for players. Judd was out of contract last season, the jury was out due to a poor injury hit season before, he didn't get a new deal until February when he had played well across a long stretch of 20 League games. It should be the same for Ling.
IMO we could improve on both. In the old League Two days we had Matty Joseph at right-back, no reason why we couldn't sign a 2020 equivalent.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:50 am
Sam is A young player and of course constructive criticism is always welcome and can be helpful helpful, but this is not the way to do it.MassiveForehead wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:34 amA show for opinions where one can only be blinkered and talk about how wonderful everything is?Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:33 amAgree, thoughts he should have not viewed on the Orient radio show.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:25 am
I was surprised when he made those comments. Not very professional. No doubts about his views on Ling and to a degree one shared by many, but an Orient radio show followed by fans is not the place.
Poor form and I sincerely hope the show made their thoughts known too afterwards, in private of course.
Rather humiliating for Sam and also his father to hear that sort of thing.
I don't necessarily agree with the comments but I think he has the right to say them if asked.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:36 pm
Thought Ling had a good game yesterday until the injury, looked more confident having Dennis around giving him options to pass to.
Judd didn't seem to pick up the pace of the game when he came on in comparison.
Personally think this podcast / radio show thing has gone too far and the club need to bring the content back in house. Too many "official" interviews with club staff, owners etc. are going through these random channels and it either becomes sycophantic or, in this case really unfair on an individual player.
Judd didn't seem to pick up the pace of the game when he came on in comparison.
Personally think this podcast / radio show thing has gone too far and the club need to bring the content back in house. Too many "official" interviews with club staff, owners etc. are going through these random channels and it either becomes sycophantic or, in this case really unfair on an individual player.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:38 pm
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:39 pm
It definitely is not the way to do it. Nobody is trying to stifle free speech and opinions but his comments and the way they were delivered were classless and crass. The guy should be ashamed.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:50 amSam is A young player and of course constructive criticism is always welcome and can be helpful helpful, but this is not the way to do it.MassiveForehead wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:34 amA show for opinions where one can only be blinkered and talk about how wonderful everything is?Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:33 am
Agree, thoughts he should have not viewed on the Orient radio show.
Rather humiliating for Sam and also his father to hear that sort of thing.
I don't necessarily agree with the comments but I think he has the right to say them if asked.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:39 pm
Did you hear them?
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:48 pm
Having podcasts and radio shows where no one commits to an opinion, especially one that doesn’t toe the club line, will be very dull.
Haven’t heard the actual comment so can’t comment on delivery but I don’t disagree.
Didn’t exactly cover himself in glory for the first goal yday either.
Haven’t heard the actual comment so can’t comment on delivery but I don’t disagree.
Didn’t exactly cover himself in glory for the first goal yday either.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:57 pm
This is ridiculous.
You cant offer a negative opinion nowadays? Shows what a waste of time all these podcast/radio things are now the boundaries around their independence have been blurred.
For what it s wroth I thought Sam was ok yesterday up until the injury. Howeve, having seen the first goal back you realise he just ain’t a natural defender. Massively at fault for that goal, he’s dropping off into a safe position and doing absolutely nothing when he should be pressing.
Judd was much better when h came on however, especially when going forward, and obviously has to retain his spot.
You cant offer a negative opinion nowadays? Shows what a waste of time all these podcast/radio things are now the boundaries around their independence have been blurred.
For what it s wroth I thought Sam was ok yesterday up until the injury. Howeve, having seen the first goal back you realise he just ain’t a natural defender. Massively at fault for that goal, he’s dropping off into a safe position and doing absolutely nothing when he should be pressing.
Judd was much better when h came on however, especially when going forward, and obviously has to retain his spot.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:23 pm
Confirms your right?
Disillusioned again I see
I can’t remember Dickenson being all that good in fairness
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:27 pm
I will take his view over yours any day of the week fella.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:23 pmConfirms your right?
Disillusioned again I see
I can’t remember Dickenson being all that good in fairness
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:29 pm
Course you would it’s slagging off one of your favourite subjects
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:43 pm
Dropping off into a safe position and not pressing is how he plays. That’s what annoys me about his game, very passive. Little or no oomph. Easy option. So he makes mistakes, big deal, all players do. That’s not the issue. People prefer Judd, who also cocks up, because he gives everything for the cause.CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:57 pm This is ridiculous.
You cant offer a negative opinion nowadays? Shows what a waste of time all these podcast/radio things are now the boundaries around their independence have been blurred.
For what it s wroth I thought Sam was ok yesterday up until the injury. Howeve, having seen the first goal back you realise he just ain’t a natural defender. Massively at fault for that goal, he’s dropping off into a safe position and doing absolutely nothing when he should be pressing.
Judd was much better when h came on however, especially when going forward, and obviously has to retain his spot.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:51 pm
And he’s the better player.
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:56 pm
Re: ex player slagging off ling
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:16 pm
You are yes I’m happy you’ve found your level