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No one disputes the injustice of Jack Currie’s sending off at Birmingham
That in my opinion has caused the 3 full games plus 80 mins v Birmingham where the Os have fallen apart.
Why, if that idiot referee admitted his error, wasn’t Currie’s ban overturned??
It smacks of injustice and I can’t understand why the club seem to have accepted the ban without an appeal.
Am I wrong???

Didn't the falling apart start at Bolton the Saturday before?

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:31 pm No one disputes the injustice of Jack Currie’s sending off at Birmingham
That in my opinion has caused the 3 full games plus 80 mins v Birmingham where the Os have fallen apart.
Why, if that idiot referee admitted his error, wasn’t Currie’s ban overturned??
It smacks of injustice and I can’t understand why the club seem to have accepted the ban without an appeal.
Am I wrong???

That's a good question. I was wondering about that myself .

Agreed. It was the defining moment of our season. In my opinion we would still be in the playoff zone if that embarrassing decision hadn’t happened

The club haven’t actually announced anything about an appeal, have they?

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:31 pm No one disputes the injustice of Jack Currie’s sending off at Birmingham
That in my opinion has caused the 3 full games plus 80 mins v Birmingham where the Os have fallen apart.
Why, if that idiot referee admitted his error, wasn’t Currie’s ban overturned??
It smacks of injustice and I can’t understand why the club seem to have accepted the ban without an appeal.
Am I wrong???

Just seen the most violent follow through from Tarkowski in the Liverpool derby. Ref gave a yellow . VAR backed it up. It makes Curries tackle look like a tickle. How the Liverpool players leg wasn’t broken was pure luck. Awful tackle.

Can someone please explain why the red card wasn’t rescinded?

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:41 pm Can someone please explain why the red card wasn’t rescinded?

There didn't seem to be an official line on it but a few things were said in interviews...

Ref admitted it was a mistake
Howard Webb agreed
The FA Disciplinary panel upheld the ban regardless

Incompetent or malevolent, take your pick

Unfortunately the FA Disciplinary panel are more interested in supporting the referees than justice, the whole process is a a farce IMHO. The only decisions I've seen overturned are either mistaken identity, or TV analysed with massive public opinion. I can't remember Leyton Orient ever making a successful appeal.

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 10:24 pm

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:41 pm Can someone please explain why the red card wasn’t rescinded?

There didn't seem to be an official line on it but a few things were said in interviews...

Ref admitted it was a mistake
Howard Webb agreed
The FA Disciplinary panel upheld the ban regardless

Incompetent or malevolent, take your pick

Anyone who has done the job of a referee will know how difficult it is and of course we understand that like players they can make mistakes.
However it’s ridiculous to keep the ban and make any player miss 3 games when everyone is in agreement that the tackle wasn’t even a yellow card let alone a Red.

Watching the Merseyside Derby last night, how on earth was James Tarkowski not Red carded ??
Whilst he played the ball when tackling Macallister of Liverpool, he made sure he ‘followed through’ and almost broke the Liverpool players leg.
They even had VAR to help the Ref…………..Ex Ref Mike Dean , commenting for Sky, thought it was a Red card.

This club is taken over by moneybags investors we should make a bid to sign Curry.
He is, in my opinion, one of the best left backs ever to play for the O's
½ million should buy him, money which should be available

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:18 am This club is taken over by moneybags investors we should make a bid to sign Curry.
He is, in my opinion, one of the best left backs ever to play for the O's
½ million should buy him, money which should be available

To sign Jack permanently would be fantastic but I dare say it would cost us more than half a million to get him . I doubt if Oxford would sell him anyway . If doable I'd love us to sign Kelman on a permanent as well . I know Galbraith will probably be sold but in an ideal world I wish we could keep him . As for Donley and Keeley I can't see Spurs letting them go . They are two for the future.

Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:39 pm Didn't the falling apart start at Bolton the Saturday before?

It did, as soon as Cooper hobbled off and Sweeney went to centre back. Cooper and Reg would have seen that game out we were pretty comfortable until then.

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:18 am This club is taken over by moneybags investors we should make a bid to sign Curry.
He is, in my opinion, one of the best left backs ever to play for the O's
½ million should buy him, money which should be available

I wouldn’t get your hopes up there seems to be some chatter about the club preparing to offer Jayden Sweeney and additional 12 months on his contract.

There is zero chance Sweeney would start next season at first choice left back, even if that rumor was true.

If the new owners are splashing the cash (which I wouldn't raise hopes too much about), the upshot of losing Galbraith is that they will be able to reinvest the 1m+ fully in the squad, which helps manage the ffp restrictions.

I'd buy Donley & Currie, but I doubt their parent teams would sell at an affordable price. Keeley though a great shot-stopper, isn't big enough IMO to be a keeper in the top half of L1 or the Championship.

Sweeney & Prats will both get new contracts IMO. Prats will settle for 1 year, Sweeney will want 2. It's whether we are prepared to offer him, that is thequestion.

COYOs

EliotNes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 4:18 pm I'd buy Donley & Currie, but I doubt their parent teams would sell at an affordable price. Keeley though a great shot-stopper, isn't big enough IMO to be a keeper in the top half of L1 or the Championship.

Sweeney & Prats will both get new contracts IMO. Prats will settle for 1 year, Sweeney will want 2. It's whether we are prepared to offer him, that is thequestion.

COYOs

I wouldn’t offer Sweeney the bus money home

redintheface wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:35 pm

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:18 am This club is taken over by moneybags investors we should make a bid to sign Curry.
He is, in my opinion, one of the best left backs ever to play for the O's
½ million should buy him, money which should be available

I wouldn’t get your hopes up there seems to be some chatter about the club preparing to offer Jayden Sweeney and additional 12 months on his contract.

Why ? He’s not good enough

EliotNes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 4:18 pm I'd buy Donley & Currie, but I doubt their parent teams would sell at an affordable price. Keeley though a great shot-stopper, isn't big enough IMO to be a keeper in the top half of L1 or the Championship.

Sweeney & Prats will both get new contracts IMO. Prats will settle for 1 year, Sweeney will want 2. It's whether we are prepared to offer him, that is thequestion.

COYOs

Pratley has been fantastic for us but is now too old and Sweeney isn’t good enough. I would say thank you and good bye to both of them

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:41 pm There is zero chance Sweeney would start next season at first choice left back, even if that rumor was true.

If the new owners are splashing the cash (which I wouldn't raise hopes too much about), the upshot of losing Galbraith is that they will be able to reinvest the 1m+ fully in the squad, which helps manage the ffp restrictions.

The rumour is certainly true ( ie I haven’t made it up)! Whether Sweeney has “ zero chance” of starting next season remains to be seen I guess? I must admit wouldn’t be my preferred option.

redintheface wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:35 pm

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:18 am This club is taken over by moneybags investors we should make a bid to sign Curry.
He is, in my opinion, one of the best left backs ever to play for the O's
½ million should buy him, money which should be available

I wouldn’t get your hopes up there seems to be some chatter about the club preparing to offer Jayden Sweeney and additional 12 months on his contract.

Then they don't deserve to get anywhere next season. Had enough opportunities to prove himself this season and come up well short. If we have any realistic aims at top 6 we need to drop the sentimental contracts.

Would absolutely love Currie back, that's the quality of player we need to compete at the top end of the league but ambition won't come cheap.