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CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:40 am My wife gets proper irritated when I put cans in the bin. Can I tell her she’s wrong?

Real Al wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:32 pm Just returned from the pub a bit pickled, after picking up a pie and chips.

After eating said culinary delight, I've wrapped the paper, pie wrapper, chips, and ketchup into the plastic bag it came in. I've then wandered into the no-man's land of the bins... and popped it in the recycling by mistake.

I'm mortified, but have no desire to dumpster dive in the rain.

What would you do...

George M wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:53 am If I were running a country where the education system is stretched , failing ,and underfunded , where the NHS is overrun, where the transport infrastructure sinks under the volume wishing to use it , my first thought would not be to increase the population further .

George M wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:53 am If I were running a country where the education system is stretched , failing ,and underfunded , where the NHS is overrun, where the transport infrastructure sinks under the volume wishing to use it , my first thought would not be to increase the population further . And yet that is exactly what Labour propose and we all sit here accepting that as a policy that will put us back on the track to greatness. It is a policy that makes no sense to anyone other than those making the decision.

Real Al wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:32 pm Just returned from the pub a bit pickled, after picking up a pie and chips.

After eating said culinary delight, I've wrapped the paper, pie wrapper, chips, and ketchup into the plastic bag it came in. I've then wandered into the no-man's land of the bins... and popped it in the recycling by mistake.

I'm mortified, but have no desire to dumpster dive in the rain.

What would you do...

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:07 pm

George M wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:53 am If I were running a country where the education system is stretched , failing ,and underfunded , where the NHS is overrun, where the transport infrastructure sinks under the volume wishing to use it , my first thought would not be to increase the population further .

You’d tax the corporations and wealthy properly too? Welcome on board, comrade.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:10 pm Nothing. Recycling is a scam anyway. It's just something we've been made to do to alleviate the sense of guilt of the wet lettuces.

Most of what you will even put in a green bin will be incinerated or wnd up in land fill in Bangladesh or something. It's quite probable that nothing you put in your green bin this year will be recycled at all.

And, when measured end-to-end and assuming your local incinerator facility has a modern filtration system, burning the stuff has a lower carbon footprint than recycling anyway.

The best thing you can do right now is have another drink.

It's just something we all do so that we can think that we're doing something.

LittleMate wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:14 pm

George M wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:53 am If I were running a country where the education system is stretched , failing ,and underfunded , where the NHS is overrun, where the transport infrastructure sinks under the volume wishing to use it , my first thought would not be to increase the population further . And yet that is exactly what Labour propose and we all sit here accepting that as a policy that will put us back on the track to greatness. It is a policy that makes no sense to anyone other than those making the decision.

All parties are on board with population expansion, mainly to cover the fact that we have an ageing population and need the younger ones to pay for it. That in itself suggests that as a country/population we have under-funded (or been ineffective) under our own model of governance (we are definitely underfunded to some degree). Having less earning adults can only affect our output and so gdp. Population growth = economic growth?

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:22 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:10 pm Nothing. Recycling is a scam anyway. It's just something we've been made to do to alleviate the sense of guilt of the wet lettuces.

Most of what you will even put in a green bin will be incinerated or wnd up in land fill in Bangladesh or something. It's quite probable that nothing you put in your green bin this year will be recycled at all.

And, when measured end-to-end and assuming your local incinerator facility has a modern filtration system, burning the stuff has a lower carbon footprint than recycling anyway.

The best thing you can do right now is have another drink.

It's just something we all do so that we can think that we're doing something.

Sounding like a conspiracy theorist.

So countries around the world are all recycling for no reason?

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:28 pm Pretty shocked at the attitudes on this thread.

Not believing in recycling, climate change etc is surely just a belief to excuse yourself from having to do anything?

Sure, our systems aren't perfect, but I will keep trying.

George M wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:28 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:22 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:10 pm Nothing. Recycling is a scam anyway. It's just something we've been made to do to alleviate the sense of guilt of the wet lettuces.

Most of what you will even put in a green bin will be incinerated or wnd up in land fill in Bangladesh or something. It's quite probable that nothing you put in your green bin this year will be recycled at all.

And, when measured end-to-end and assuming your local incinerator facility has a modern filtration system, burning the stuff has a lower carbon footprint than recycling anyway.

The best thing you can do right now is have another drink.

It's just something we all do so that we can think that we're doing something.

Sounding like a conspiracy theorist.

So countries around the world are all recycling for no reason?

Did you not read the article. Individually placing items into a recycling bin does not mean that those items are being recycled. It’s trying to solve the result of the problem rather than the cause. Until we stop producing silly little plastic bottles of water , as an example , I will not take recycling seriously. As a minimum these should be banned with immediate effect.