Independent Leyton Orient Forum

brentwoodo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:18 am I thought the referee last night had a pretty good game and was one of the better referees we have seen for a while. He allowed the game to flow, used a fair amount of common sense in not falling for the usual tricks and he did not brandish cards like confetti. Of course, no referee can get everything right!!

On closer examination, he looked familiar and I suddenly realised it was Daniel Middleton, the same guy that refereed arguably one of the most important wins in the club's history. The near promotion clinching 2-1 win at Sutton United in 2019 where he sent off James Dayton who had just been assaulted and was laying on the ground with 'his leg hanging off'. I don't thing in the thousands of games I have played in and watched that I have ever been more incensed by the incompetence of a referee. At the time, everyone was saying this bloke should never referee a game again!!

It just shows there is hope for everyone, even referees!!

brentwoodo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:18 am I thought the referee last night had a pretty good game and was one of the better referees we have seen for a while. He allowed the game to flow, used a fair amount of common sense in not falling for the usual tricks and he did not brandish cards like confetti. Of course, no referee can get everything right!!

On closer examination, he looked familiar and I suddenly realised it was Daniel Middleton, the same guy that refereed arguably one of the most important wins in the club's history. The near promotion clinching 2-1 win at Sutton United in 2019 where he sent off James Dayton who had just been assaulted and was laying on the ground with 'his leg hanging off'. I don't thing in the thousands of games I have played in and watched that I have ever been more incensed by the incompetence of a referee. At the time, everyone was saying this bloke should never referee a game again!!

It just shows there is hope for everyone, even referees!!

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:27 am

brentwoodo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:18 am I thought the referee last night had a pretty good game and was one of the better referees we have seen for a while. He allowed the game to flow, used a fair amount of common sense in not falling for the usual tricks and he did not brandish cards like confetti. Of course, no referee can get everything right!!

On closer examination, he looked familiar and I suddenly realised it was Daniel Middleton, the same guy that refereed arguably one of the most important wins in the club's history. The near promotion clinching 2-1 win at Sutton United in 2019 where he sent off James Dayton who had just been assaulted and was laying on the ground with 'his leg hanging off'. I don't thing in the thousands of games I have played in and watched that I have ever been more incensed by the incompetence of a referee. At the time, everyone was saying this bloke should never referee a game again!!

It just shows there is hope for everyone, even referees!!

He was sh*t then and was sh*t last night.

I do worry about our fans sometimes.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:20 am I've made this point elsewhere already. There was a directive, maybe a season ago, to allow a bit more physicality in the game. I'm all for that.

However, you can not double handed push an opponent. Nor can you hit an opponent square in the back, between the shoulder blades, with your own shoulder. This happened multiple times last night and the ref ignored it.

What I would say in his defence is that he was consistent - he allowed both sides to get away with it equally, so the players knew where they stood. (There were only a handful of occasions he pulled players up for it, one of which was a proper old fashioned shoulder to shoulder in front of the TJS - think it was Ollie - and sent their full back flying, only to blow his whistle). I would guess this clown has never played the game at any level and therefore has no concept of what's fair and what isn't.

(For the record, yes I played a little bit although admittedly some time ago now).

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:07 am id rather a ref like last night who lets some physicality go that by the book might be foul than the majority of them who give a foul if a player goes down knowing he's going to get a foul if his sleeve gets brushed. I think most people would too.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:37 am If anyone is in any doubt about Hoover's footballing experience, I believe that photographic evidence does exist somewhere.

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:17 pm Are people being serious?

Peterborough continuously had 6ft 3inch blokes crumbling to the ground at the slightest touch and the ref fell for it every single time. Hector K being a prime suspect.

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:17 pm

There was also some point in the first half where he blew for a Peterborough free kick but then changed his mind + played on. Proper bizarre.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:20 pm

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:17 pm Are people being serious?

Peterborough continuously had 6ft 3inch blokes crumbling to the ground at the slightest touch and the ref fell for it every single time. Hector K being a prime suspect.

That didn’t happen tho. There were a couple of instances of players going down easily but that was it.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:22 pm

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:17 pm

There was also some point in the first half where he blew for a Peterborough free kick but then changed his mind + played on. Proper bizarre.

Was that the sliding tackle by Clare? If so I thought he’d given the free kick too but was put right, he was just - very dramatically - signalling to play on as he touched the ball.