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Maybe there is hope for the US after all?
Big donations for her campaign have flooded in. Brave, intelligent, gutsy, accomplished - what's not to like?

Certainly the energy level of the Dems campaign has gone through the roof, she seems competent to me, and maybe the momentum from a shorter campaign will carry her over the line. On the other hand, Americans...

Simples: she has got brains, Trump hasn't- whether or not the Yanks can work out that conundrum, is another matter.

I dunno. I'm not sure I could look past her laugh.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:04 am I dunno. I'm not sure I could look past her laugh.

And she's a childless cat lady

Her biggest problem is that she’s an Asian Caribbean American who is intelligent. All the things a lot of yanks, and especially the right, are scared of. It might do her in.

Oh and she’s a woman and getting over that barrier will be hardest against someone like trump

How does she poll with centrists?

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:52 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:04 am I dunno. I'm not sure I could look past her laugh.

And she's a childless cat lady

Didn't know about the cats FFS. It's Trumpet for me then

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:18 am How does she poll with centrists?

No idea. I just come across this poll showing voting intentions over three identifiers. What's interesting about it is that Trump has increased his vote share with black voters. He had 8% of them vote for him in 2020.

Well he is the least racist president, ever.

I'm surprised his women numbers are that good considering.

Celtient wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:42 am

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:52 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:04 am I dunno. I'm not sure I could look past her laugh.

And she's a childless cat lady

Didn't know about the cats FFS. It's Trumpet for me then

Wonder if Trumpet will try to grab her kitty?

Censorship kicked in there

All I’m going to say is they have just handed the Presidency to Trump

Absolutely wild that Trump is going to be president again. The USA has completely lost its sh*t

oxo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:40 pm Absolutely wild that Trump is going to be president again. The USA has completely lost its sh*t

Agreed. The more outrageous the politician, the more likely the Americans seem to like him.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:08 pm All I’m going to say is they have just handed the Presidency to Trump

And if it turns out they haven't, you'll say it's a conspiracy anyway. No lose scenario really.

Hearing Trump is rethinking his VP pick

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:53 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:08 pm All I’m going to say is they have just handed the Presidency to Trump

And if it turns out they haven't, you'll say it's a conspiracy anyway. No lose scenario really.

Well, let’s just hope there are no shenanigans this time . For example, postal ballots without any signatures on them which were wide open to fraud. Hopefully this election will have more integrity about it so people can abide by whatever the result is without complaint or suspicions.

Distinctly remember you saying at the time you thought the election was stolen before a single baseless conspiracy theory was even put forward. You just 'knew' it to be true.

Do you not see how arriving at a conclusion before any evidence has been offered ( and to be clear none ever was found anyway ) might suggest you've been a bit sucked in? That it's a bit of a strange worldview to think that if Trump wins, it's real, but if he doesn't, it's a fix?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:00 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:53 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:08 pm All I’m going to say is they have just handed the Presidency to Trump

And if it turns out they haven't, you'll say it's a conspiracy anyway. No lose scenario really.

Well, let’s just hope there are no shenanigans this time . For example, postal ballots without any signatures on them which were wide open to fraud. Hopefully this election will have more integrity about it so people can abide by whatever the result is without complaint or suspicions.

What lack of integrity was there in the last election, other than the sitting President refusing to accept he lost and putting pressure on others to 'find votes'?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:00 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:53 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:08 pm All I’m going to say is they have just handed the Presidency to Trump

And if it turns out they haven't, you'll say it's a conspiracy anyway. No lose scenario really.

Well, let’s just hope there are no shenanigans this time . For example, postal ballots without any signatures on them which were wide open to fraud. Hopefully this election will have more integrity about it so people can abide by whatever the result is without complaint or suspicions.

Hear!Hear! Trumpet is the byword for integrity and I would hate to see him cheated again! If he does fall foul to cheating this time around, I hope the good ole boys will take up arms and show those liberal candy-asses what's what

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 3:40 pm Hearing Trump is rethinking his VP pick

The Russians don't like him, neither it seems do Americans

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:14 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:00 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:53 pm

And if it turns out they haven't, you'll say it's a conspiracy anyway. No lose scenario really.

Well, let’s just hope there are no shenanigans this time . For example, postal ballots without any signatures on them which were wide open to fraud. Hopefully this election will have more integrity about it so people can abide by whatever the result is without complaint or suspicions.

What lack of integrity was there in the last election, other than the sitting President refusing to accept he lost and putting pressure on others to 'find votes'?

We all spoke about this back in 2020. I'm not going to go through it all again .

If you don't want to rake over old ground, perhaps stop repeating the same baseless accusations.

On the one hand we have a former President who refused to believe he lost last election, despite the democracy of the vote.

And against him now the Vice-President, who was willing to deceive the American public and back the existing President for the job for another four years, despite the fact she must have known he wasn’t fit for it. Then along came the TV debate and made it glaringly obvious to everyone he wasn’t up to it, so realising the cat was out the bag and they were onto a loser, she then takes over late in the day as the nominee.

What a choice!