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I think he is out of the top drawer and should start the game tonight - I feel he knows his own worth and will not be intimidated by the occasion. Thoughts?

He was the best player in the premier league last season and was playing for a mediocre side. Looks like he has the right amount of arrogance for international football. Should have started every game. Insane that he’s not even been on the pitch yet

I agree whole-heartedly: got to freshen up the team ....

I've not seen enough of him for Chelsea to form an opinion. His stats obviously speak for themselves, but strange Pep let him go.

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:39 am I think he is out of the top drawer and should start the game tonight - I feel he knows his own worth and will not be intimidated by the occasion. Thoughts?

Yes maybe but we are talking Southgate here

I think Southgate will change things for tonight's match, and Palmer would be my choice to start

Southgate needs to play in-form players in their best position

Guy is competing with Saka - our most consistent attacker for years, Foden - epl player of the season, and Bellingham - la liga player of the season. I genuinely don't know where he'd come into that team unless Foden was dropped, Bellingham pushed back to deeper in midfield, and Palmer starts as a 10.

The problems we have aren't really personnel other than at left back and a partner for Rice. We haven't got a system that works and imagine Palmer would look just as lost as Foden has in the current set up.

IMO Anthony Gordon should play on the left. Its pace we need there, then we can go forward on both wings

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:45 am I agree whole-heartedly: got to freshen up the team ....

Well something has got to change because so far England have been awful .

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:00 pm IMO Anthony Gordon should play on the left. Its pace we need there, then we can go forward on both wings

Anthony Gordon I have seen - love him for his workrate and energy, his stats must be insane. He makes things happen. No qualms if he starts.

Southgate should know all this: it will be interesting to see the starting X1 tonight.

Think It'll be ( as a few media munchkins have said) drop Trent play bellingham deeper foden behind Kane and Godon on the left.

He scored a few penalties.
Big deal

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:51 pm

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:00 pm IMO Anthony Gordon should play on the left. Its pace we need there, then we can go forward on both wings

Anthony Gordon I have seen - love him for his workrate and energy, his stats must be insane. He makes things happen. No qualms if he starts.

Can’t give a firm reason for it but I’m not a member o the Anthony Gordon fan club. Might be his propensity for play acting and cheating

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:45 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:51 pm

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:00 pm IMO Anthony Gordon should play on the left. Its pace we need there, then we can go forward on both wings

Anthony Gordon I have seen - love him for his workrate and energy, his stats must be insane. He makes things happen. No qualms if he starts.

Can’t give a firm reason for it but I’m not a member o the Anthony Gordon fan club. Might be his propensity for play acting and cheating

I find his haircut bothers me a bit. Probably a good job I'm not picking the players

Sounds like Gallagher will come in. We looked pretty good at the world cup with Rice as the DM and Henderson and Bellingham playing as 8s, and Gallagher is a reasonable Henderson replacement, so that line up might work. Would give Foden more room to drift into the no.10 slot as well.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:52 pm Sounds like Gallagher will come in. We looked pretty good at the world cup with Rice as the DM and Henderson and Bellingham playing as 8s, and Gallagher is a reasonable Henderson replacement, so that line up might work. Would give Foden more room to drift into the no.10 slot as well.

sounds the way he will play it. Hope he rolls the dice at some point and introduces some more young blood..
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Have been very impressed whenever I've seen Palmer. Not seen Gordon quite as much but what I recall they are both very similar in style, skill and even stature.

Well he certainly reminded me of Pigot with that last minute feeble effort on goal

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:41 pm Well he certainly reminded me of Pigot with that last minute feeble effort on goal

Pigott would've been 5 yards behind the play and watched the pass roll out for a goal kick

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:41 pm Well he certainly reminded me of Pigot with that last minute feeble effort on goal

A real shame as he’d looked good up until then.

Difficult to justify inclusion after fluffing our one big chance.

Was it that easy a chance? I've only seen it once and I don't seem to remember holding my head in my hands. It was a chance, yes, but it didn't look easy... I may be wrong, must see it again.

Is anyone saying it was an easy chance? But he totally fluffed it, that’s clear.

It was very similar to the last minute opportunity the Italian bloke curled into the far corner of the Croats net the night before.

The opportunity, not the execution of it.