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There's life in the old Biden yet:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... y-birthday

Donald won't like that.

Did Biden really say that or the guy behind him pulling his strings . I reckon it’s probably Blinken who said it . At times old Joe is completely spaced out.

It shows the depths the US has fallen when the choice is between a lunatic and a senile

Adz wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:02 am It shows the depths the US has fallen when the choice is between a lunatic and a senile

That's just the thing , if we thought Trump was a lunatic then so did our enemies . It's what kept them in check and allowed Trump to be invited to step on to North Korean soil . We get the geriatric and things go to pot .

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:45 pm

Adz wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:02 am It shows the depths the US has fallen when the choice is between a lunatic and a senile

That's just the thing , if we thought Trump was a lunatic then so did our enemies . It's what kept them in check and allowed Trump to be invited to step on to North Korean soil . We get the geriatric and things go to pot .

I see, so the secret to maintaining Peace is to have the biggest lunatics, fruitloops and corrupt idiots in power. Maybe it's time to return to your home planet.

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:02 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:45 pm

Adz wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:02 am It shows the depths the US has fallen when the choice is between a lunatic and a senile

That's just the thing , if we thought Trump was a lunatic then so did our enemies . It's what kept them in check and allowed Trump to be invited to step on to North Korean soil . We get the geriatric and things go to pot .

I see, so the secret to maintaining Peace is to have the biggest lunatics, fruitloops and corrupt idiots in power. Maybe it's time to return to your home planet.

We need strong leaders ,not weaklings like Biden because they don't get us anywhere .Neville Chamberlain in 1939 was a liberal peacenik and looked what happened . Appeasement gets you nowhere .

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:00 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:02 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:45 pm

That's just the thing , if we thought Trump was a lunatic then so did our enemies . It's what kept them in check and allowed Trump to be invited to step on to North Korean soil . We get the geriatric and things go to pot .

I see, so the secret to maintaining Peace is to have the biggest lunatics, fruitloops and corrupt idiots in power. Maybe it's time to return to your home planet.

We need strong leaders ,not weaklings like Biden because they don't get us anywhere .Neville Chamberlain in 1939 was a liberal peacenik and looked what happened . Appeasement gets you nowhere .

Not sure why I'm bothering but, you seem to be confusing lunacy, idiocy and corruption with strength. They are very different qualities. I'm done here.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:45 pm

Adz wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:02 am It shows the depths the US has fallen when the choice is between a lunatic and a senile

That's just the thing , if we thought Trump was a lunatic then so did our enemies . It's what kept them in check and allowed Trump to be invited to step on to North Korean soil . We get the geriatric and things go to pot .

We don't think he is a lunatic, we know he is a convicted criminal, facing more charges.

No left wing parties in USA, but grandad Biden rather then one of the biggest spunk bubbles to ever live. His dad was a slum landlord, so had the tw*t had a great role model and turned out even worse...

Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:16 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:45 pm

Adz wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:02 am It shows the depths the US has fallen when the choice is between a lunatic and a senile

That's just the thing , if we thought Trump was a lunatic then so did our enemies . It's what kept them in check and allowed Trump to be invited to step on to North Korean soil . We get the geriatric and things go to pot .

We don't think he is a lunatic, we know he is a convicted criminal, facing more charges.

A cobbled together crime just to catch the man . It’s clearly just a political stitch up which has only increased Trump’s popularity. He’s firmly on course to be the next president.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:37 pm

Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:16 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:45 pm

That's just the thing , if we thought Trump was a lunatic then so did our enemies . It's what kept them in check and allowed Trump to be invited to step on to North Korean soil . We get the geriatric and things go to pot .

We don't think he is a lunatic, we know he is a convicted criminal, facing more charges.

A cobbled together crime just to catch the man . It’s clearly just a political stitch up which has only increased Trump’s popularity. He’s firmly on course to be the next president.

Weird how justice seems to work perfectly normally and without obstruction when convicting the son of the literal President, yet it's all a Deep State web of lies when it comes to The Guy I Support.

A “cobbled together crime” is a new one on me

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:37 pm

Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:16 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:45 pm

That's just the thing , if we thought Trump was a lunatic then so did our enemies . It's what kept them in check and allowed Trump to be invited to step on to North Korean soil . We get the geriatric and things go to pot .

We don't think he is a lunatic, we know he is a convicted criminal, facing more charges.

A cobbled together crime just to catch the man . It’s clearly just a political stitch up which has only increased Trump’s popularity. He’s firmly on course to be the next president.

Yet still found guilty of a criminal offence & more to come. Republicans are leaving him in droves

Are they? I mean, I don't think that's supported by much evidence, is it?

People who've already committed to Trump will simply believe that it's an a political charade and that'll reinforce their belief that they picked the right guy to adore. Easy to see the thought process, that they couldn't possibly have been taken in by a shyster - that would mean they are pretty gullible - so therefore it must be a fit up. Now, the worse it gets for Trump - the more egregious his crimes and misdemeanours - the more they have to reinforce their belief that it's all a fit up.

Guess the time to finally say "that's it, he's a crook and I was fooled by him" without now having to admit that they really are gullible fools, is long past. Unless they can look themselves in the eye, no one else is going to be able to persuade them and the stronger the evidence is against their man, the harder they'll push back. I'm sure some are leaving his camp - there's a few dissenters in the GOP - but such is the cult of this man that I'd suggest the vast majority of believers still believe - see above for example. No-one in the USA seems to decide between Democrat and Republican, they seem to decide between voting and not-voting and that seems to decide their elections - it remains to be seen whether Republican voters will turn out for him or not, but I think it's way too early to state that they're deserting him in their droves.

Party not voters

But voters will get him back in, so...

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sen ... -111145696

It seems they have changed their minds again.
Hard to keep up with republicans

Hope I'm alive at 82 let alone have the energy to do what Biden is doing at 82

Defending the indefensible at this point. Even if you don't think he's senile - which appears increasingly debatable - he's eighty-f*cking-two and no sensible democracy should be looking to elect someone that old, and nor should anyone of that age be seeking election. Go and have a rest mate, watch some daytime TV. Same applies to his 79 year old opponent.

Why don't you just calm yourself down mate & take your own advice or better still STFU .

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:06 am Defending the indefensible at this point. Even if you don't think he's senile - which appears increasingly debatable - he's eighty-f*cking-two and no sensible democracy should be looking to elect someone that old, and nor should anyone of that age be seeking election. Go and have a rest mate, watch some daytime TV. Same applies to his 79 year old opponent.

I'm in favour of an upper age limit, despite there being some with plenty to offer (like Warren Buffet still running a multi billion dollar company in his 90's)

Brigs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:05 am Why don't you just calm yourself down mate & take your own advice or better still STFU .

Who said I'm not calm? Bit of projection going on there.

Brigs acting tuff