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Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 4:58 pm
by CEB
Thought it’s worth doing this as a general point as when it’s about a specific it’s usually already too heated.
I just want to see whether anyone has any objection to any of these statements:
1: left and right wing media have obvious areas of bias, and obvious areas of over and under reporting some issues, depending on that bias
2: it’s not reasonable to dismiss an argument based on where one links to; a poor argument or bad data should not need “I don’t trust the outlet” as a way of addressing it.
3: when linking to sources broadly aligned with our own politics, it’s reasonable to be able to draw a distinction between deferring to an authority, editorialising, and strong arguments
Is there anything there to disagree with?
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:17 pm
by Dunners
4: Viz. If all else fails, I just plunder the Viz back catalogue for most of my material.
But, no, nothing to disagree with there.
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:19 pm
by Long slender neck
2 i think you could just feel you're wasting your time if you have to wade through some cack from a dodgy source though
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:21 pm
by Dunners
Also, I generally rely on none of you ever putting in the effort to trace where I've C&P'd my latest ramblings from.
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:42 pm
by Hoover Attack
Left wing media
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:59 pm
by Celtient
I would never bother trying to verify anything nowadays so rely on my life experience, which is; Tory MP's, self serving horrible bastards, Labour MP's useless tossers. Lib Dems seem like nice enough people but a waste of a vote as will never win in my constituency. SNP some real dodgy characters among them, but as it's it's a straight race between them and the Tories in my constituency they get my vote
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:07 am
by Max B Gold
CEB wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 4:58 pm
Thought it’s worth doing this as a general point as when it’s about a specific it’s usually already too heated.
I just want to see whether anyone has any objection to any of these statements:
1: left and right wing media have obvious areas of bias, and obvious areas of over and under reporting some issues, depending on that bias
2: it’s not reasonable to dismiss an argument based on where one links to; a poor argument or bad data should not need “I don’t trust the outlet” as a way of addressing it.
3: when linking to sources broadly aligned with our own politics, it’s reasonable to be able to draw a distinction between deferring to an authority, editorialising, and strong arguments
Is there anything there to disagree with?
Yes. This isn't the Polytechnic of Leyton. It's a Div 3 football message board.
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 6:12 pm
by CEB
Very droll, but amounts to that you can’t be bothered to actually argue your points out honestly, which I think we all knew anyway.
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 10:13 pm
by Max B Gold
CEB wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 6:12 pm
Very droll, but amounts to that you can’t be bothered to actually argue your points out honestly, which I think we all knew anyway.
Oks. I promise to try harder and to bring more academic rigour to a Third Division Association football clubs independent fans message board. After all these years you must be able to see why what you advocate is desirable but impossible. I used to care but it's a waste of time when in reality there are about a six Boarders willing to play to the "rules".
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:07 am
by The Reverend
Can we not just all agree that CEB is 100% right on every topic he speaks about, every argument he makes is bullet proof, on every topic he wades in on he is the expert, and whatever debate he engages in he is by far the bestest at absolutely everything and anyone else who doesn’t agree with him is a big bad stupid head.
If we do this then maybe the tantrums will stop and the rest of us get to enjoy a Leyton Orient message board that isn’t constantly being taken over by one user starting threads to exacerbate petty feuds or to abuse moderators.
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:15 am
by CEB
Only Rev could write a post like that based on an OP like mine.
I guess another video is due
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:02 am
by The Reverend
CEB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:15 am
Only Rev could write a post like that based on an OP like mine.
I guess another video is due
Your op was the best op on the board. It’s the best op anyone has ever written. You are 100% right with every single word. This is the case for every post you’ve ever written or ever will write. You are the bestest most cleverest message boarder ever in the history of message boards. Everybody on this board is jealous of how bestest at message boarding you are.
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:11 am
by CEB
You’re really not very good at this.
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:24 am
by The Reverend
CEB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:11 am
You’re really not very good at this.
Well I’m not as good as you. Obviously. Nobody is. You’re the bestest message boarder ever. You are right in every argument. Everybody else is much more stinky brains than you. Nothing you have ever posted, or ever will post, is wrong.
You’re the cleverest, brightest, most special boy in the whole wide web.
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:30 am
by CEB
Sorry you had a bad weekend mate x
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:53 am
by The Reverend
CEB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:30 am
Sorry you had a bad weekend mate x
I forgot to add to the declaration that CEB is the bestest, brightest, cleverest, most special boy in the whole wide web who is never wrong, that in all circumstances he must be allowed to get the final word in. Because not only is he the bestest most cleverest and special boy in the whole wide web every nasty stinky brains who doesn’t agree with him is not only a silly stinky brains but they are inferior to him in multiple ways. They are not as cleverest as him and their lives outside of this board are not as good as his. Because he’s the bestest most specialist, never wrong, boy on the whole wide web and in real life too.
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:54 am
by CEB
Again, I’m sorry you didn’t have a great weekend mate x
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 11:00 am
by Hoover Attack
Can't wait for the new song to drop.
Re: Sourcing support for your points…
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:07 pm
by Max B Gold
The Reverend wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:07 am
Can we not just all agree that CEB is 100% right on every topic he speaks about, every argument he makes is bullet proof, on every topic he wades in on he is the expert, and whatever debate he engages in he is by far the bestest at absolutely everything and anyone else who doesn’t agree with him is a big bad stupid head.
If we do this then maybe the tantrums will stop and the rest of us get to enjoy a Leyton Orient message board that isn’t constantly being taken over by one user starting threads to exacerbate petty feuds or to abuse moderators.
Classic Reverend
