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Eggski wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:10 pm Give any manager that amount of money they will buy the league not win it. Not a great manager, just had loads of dosh . So over rated .

Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 9:36 pm All that money & only one trophy. The same as Man U.

Eggski wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:10 pm Give any manager that amount of money they will buy the league not win it. Not a great manager, just had loads of dosh . So over rated .

Frogger wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 10:58 am

Eggski wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:10 pm Give any manager that amount of money they will buy the league not win it. Not a great manager, just had loads of dosh . So over rated .

Not sure I agree 100% with the above. He is a world class manager, there is no doubt, and yes agreed having a bottomless pit of cash is a huge help.

What I would like to see is Pep manage a team that is down on their luck and have limited budget and see what he can do on a two year contract. Obviously this would never happen.

Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 9:36 pm All that money & only one trophy. The same as Man U.

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 8:53 pm Very Overrated..

Endless pot of money at all his clubs he’s
managed, don’t agree with him keeping
all he’s squad happy ..Grealish now practically
a bit part player, Philips either injured or
loaned out Nunez ( think that’s his name
from Wolves) barely plays ..
When he complained after the semi
final v Chelsea moaning having to play in
Europe midweek and than play a cup
game on the Saturday..
As Shearer rightly said “ you’ve got a
large squad you could have rotated “
to which pep had no reply ..
Yesterday bbc pundits saying he’s different
gravy in that he’s got a brilliant centre
half and playing him at left back, we’ll that
didn’t work out to well for the 1st goal
yesterday did it ..
Endless pundits going on about how he’s
reinvented the game just to keep him
sweet ..
Shankley, Busby, Paisley, Fergie and
Cloughie to name a few have been
reinventing the game long before
the money men come into the game ..

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 5:46 pm Agree the last two paragraphs, especially.
Grealish of course is a good player but he is, also, what I would call, a one trick pony.

Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 12:45 pm

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 8:53 pm Very Overrated..

Endless pot of money at all his clubs he’s
managed, don’t agree with him keeping
all he’s squad happy ..Grealish now practically
a bit part player, Philips either injured or
loaned out Nunez ( think that’s his name
from Wolves) barely plays ..
When he complained after the semi
final v Chelsea moaning having to play in
Europe midweek and than play a cup
game on the Saturday..
As Shearer rightly said “ you’ve got a
large squad you could have rotated “
to which pep had no reply ..
Yesterday bbc pundits saying he’s different
gravy in that he’s got a brilliant centre
half and playing him at left back, we’ll that
didn’t work out to well for the 1st goal
yesterday did it ..
Endless pundits going on about how he’s
reinvented the game just to keep him
sweet ..
Shankley, Busby, Paisley, Fergie and
Cloughie to name a few have been
reinventing the game long before
the money men come into the game ..

Yet despite still having "endless pots" of money, Bayern not even close for the Bundesliga title this year. About 18pts behind in fact. Didn't happen under Pep's watch, did it.
Grealish is a bit-part player because he was never as good as people thought he was. Should Pep just play him despite this?
Ditto Phillips- off-form for 3 years. Is that Pep's fault? He (Phillips) been crap at West Ham too. Is that Pep's fault?

Recent "net spend" (at City) smaller than Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Newcastle. So City have spent the 6th least and still come out on top. Pep is either doing something right or very very lucky indeed.

Of those you've list as superior, Fergie used to buy the title in the way you've incorrectly accused Pep of doing based on the finances; year after year hoovering up the best players, and got lucky with a crop of youth United will never see the likes of again.

He did "invent" hardline intimidation of referees and cheating for extra minutes though, so moved the game on in that way. He was also graceless in defeat and victory.
Not saying he wasn't a good manager but he hardly moved the game on in a positive sense.

aylesburyos wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 11:29 pm I think he is overrated tbh. Failed at Bayern CL. Lost todat. Huge budget #115

Eggski wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:04 pm Give me the dosh his been given through his whole career, I could get Dagenham to win the champions money fest of bland corporate football.