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What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:05 am
by E10EU
In 2023 he made it known that under his leadership the Tories' 2 child benefit cap would continue ...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... enefit-cap
but now he is talking about promoting EVERY child's interests by trying to align himself with the positives represented by Doreen Lawrence ....
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-32636273
But she seems to think that he is 'not listening to her' ....
https://www.voice-online.co.uk/opinion/ ... or-labour/
What should we expect to happen under his leadership?
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:23 am
by Proposition Joe
F*ck all, or nothing good. Next question.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:48 am
by Long slender neck
1. Win the election
He'll be better than the Tories
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:52 am
by Friend or fart
Seriously wonder about some Boarders wasting their energy knocking Labour, when we have the biggest chumps in a corrupt Government in charge of the UK. Still the Boarders in question, are: Proposition Joe & E10EU . Say no more!
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:58 am
by Mickys Bullock
He's been through the WEF young global leaders program so anything his overlords tell him like Agenda 2030 for instance. It still amazes me how anyone thinks that any politician at all cares about you.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:14 am
by Hoover Attack
His plan is to do and say whatever it takes to get Power.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:18 am
by Dunners
His real plan is to win a General Election. It really is as simple as that. I don't think that anyone is thinking much beyond that point right now.
He is showing what it truly takes to win power, and some people seem to be surprised and disappointed by that as if it's news to them.
Assuming he does win, then the Labour party machinery will kick into gear, with all that entails. You'll get some policies that make things less sh*t, possibly a few really good domestic policies, as well as lots of nonsense stuff and counterproductive meddling. But there will be no substantial shift in the general socio-economic framework and direction of travel.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:14 am
by Hoover Attack
Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:18 am
His real plan is to win a General Election. It really is as simple as that. I don't think that anyone is thinking much beyond that point right now.
He is showing what it truly takes to win power, and some people seem to be surprised and disappointed by that as if it's news to them.
Assuming he does win, then the Labour party machinery will kick into gear, with all that entails. You'll get some policies that make things less sh*t, possibly a few really good domestic policies, as well as lots of nonsense stuff and counterproductive meddling. But there will be no substantial shift in the general socio-economic framework and direction of travel.
Perfectly summed up.
The best we can hope for is for things to be slightly less sh*t. If only there was another way.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:23 am
by CEB
Any ideas for another way? I’d love to hear a suggestion
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:29 am
by Hoover Attack
CEB wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:23 am
Any ideas for another way? I’d love to hear a suggestion
We've done this before, lots of times. There is literally no other way we could organise ourselves as a society, hence my comment above and the sad face emoji.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:30 am
by Celtient
What about maybe giving out free Jelly Babies on a Friday? Admittedly, they ain't as good as they used to be ( they are just a blob that doesn't even look like a baby and are covered in white gunk) but it still might raise morale a bit
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:34 am
by Hoover Attack
Celtient wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:30 am
What about maybe giving out free Jelly Babies on a Friday? Admittedly, they ain't as good as they used to be ( they are just a blob that doesn't even look like a baby and are covered in white gunk) but it still might raise morale a bit
Sums up society today.
There are homeless war veterans that need housing, yet you'd rather dish out jelly babies to all and sundry?
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:45 am
by Dunners
What about if we throw in some fruit pastels too?
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:58 am
by Max B Gold
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:34 am
Celtient wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:30 am
What about maybe giving out free Jelly Babies on a Friday? Admittedly, they ain't as good as they used to be ( they are just a blob that doesn't even look like a baby and are covered in white gunk) but it still might raise morale a bit
Sums up society today.
There are homeless war veterans that need housing, yet you'd rather dish out jelly babies to all and sundry?
Are you suggesting the distribution of these below par jelly babies should be means tested? If you are that's a dangerous road to go down.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:50 pm
by Max B Gold
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:43 pm
by Stamford O
Alf garnett said he'd served under 15 prime ministers and been poor under every one so I expect same sh*t different toilet
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:03 pm
by North Stand Dave
To talk as much bulls..t as possible to get in office.
Lie & promise everyone everything.
The man's a fraud and just a younger version of Corbrn.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:22 pm
by Hoover Attack
North Stand Dave wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:03 pm
The man's a fraud and just a younger version of Corbrn.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:10 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Mickys Bullock wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:58 am
He's been through the WEF young global leaders program so anything his overlords tell him like Agenda 2030 for instance. It still amazes me how anyone thinks that any politician at all cares about you.
Exactly . No matter who's in government we get shifted . Labour and the Tories are two cheeks of the same arse .
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:39 am
by Friend or fart
RedDwarf 1881:- Exactly . No matter who's in government we get shifted . Labour and the Tories are two cheeks of the same arse .
The Tories have sure hoodwinked you then!
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:47 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Friend or faux wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:39 am
RedDwarf 1881:- Exactly . No matter who's in government we get shifted . Labour and the Tories are two cheeks of the same arse .
The Tories have sure hoodwinked you then!
As Labour you . You sure have a short memory . I won't be voting for either of them at the next election .
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:13 am
by Beradogs
Nor will I. 95% of the electorate have some fairly forthright views but because of our ridiculous voting system it’s the 5% of swing voters and centrists that decide every election ergo every political party “wins” by effectively having zero conviction about anything.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:19 am
by Mistadobalina
If only the country didn't overwhelmingly turn down electoral reform in 2011.
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:30 am
by Hoover Attack
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:19 am
If only the country didn't overwhelmingly turn down electoral reform in 2011.
I wonder if one of the MBs political experts, perhaps Dunnem, has a theory as to why 2/3s of people would vote against reform?
Re: What is Starmer's real plan?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:35 am
by Give it to Jabo
Do you remember how good it felt in Blair's Landslide in '97 and "Things can only get Better!" ?
