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Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:41 am
by Long slender neck
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-68838029

Almost a quarter of 5-7 year old do :shock:

My kids have a tablet and play some games on it. Phones I will avoid for as long as possible.

From what I've heard, most get them before they start secondary school.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:25 am
by Dunners
Mine are too old now but, when they were at that age, smartphones were in their infancy. Personally, I think they are a curse on younger children.

I'd support a ban on all primary-school-age children being allowed to use them. If parents want to be able to call or text their kids then just get them an old fashioned basic mobile.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:29 am
by one o in huntingdon
My daughter has a smartphone, couldn't really stop her seeing as she is 33 next month

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:43 am
by Long slender neck
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:25 am Mine are too old now but, when they were at that age, smartphones were in their infancy. Personally, I think they are a curse on younger children.

I'd support a ban on all primary-school-age children being allowed to use them. If parents want to be able to call or text their kids then just get them an old fashioned basic mobile.
Exactly, if the justification is 'need to be in contact with kids' then a cheap dumbphone will do.

I think what its really about Peer pressure and sh*tty apps, games, camera and social media.

I dont see any answer to it except try and get your kids interested in other things and curb youyr own usage- "monkey see, monkey do".

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am
by Dunners
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:43 am
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:25 am Mine are too old now but, when they were at that age, smartphones were in their infancy. Personally, I think they are a curse on younger children.

I'd support a ban on all primary-school-age children being allowed to use them. If parents want to be able to call or text their kids then just get them an old fashioned basic mobile.
Exactly, if the justification is 'need to be in contact with kids' then a cheap dumbphone will do.

I think what its really about Peer pressure and sh*tty apps, games, camera and social media.

I dont see any answer to it except try and get your kids interested in other things and curb youyr own usage- "monkey see, monkey do".
The answer has to be from a health angle.

Social media access can affect anyone's mental health, but for it to be inflicted on children so young is cruel and damaging. Kids can go through enough peer pressure and bullying when they're at school but, thanks to smartphones, they don't even get to escape it when they're at home. And many of these apps are designed to tap into the brain's dopamine response and manipulate the user's behaviour. There's a reason why so many of these tech-billionaires don't let their own children use them.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:51 am
by OyinbO
It's the network effect - exactly the same reason why so many adults are on Twitter/Facebook/Insta/LOFC message boards etc. If you're not on, you feel like you're missing out.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:54 am
by Hoover Attack
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:43 am
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:25 am Mine are too old now but, when they were at that age, smartphones were in their infancy. Personally, I think they are a curse on younger children.

I'd support a ban on all primary-school-age children being allowed to use them. If parents want to be able to call or text their kids then just get them an old fashioned basic mobile.
Exactly, if the justification is 'need to be in contact with kids' then a cheap dumbphone will do.

I think what its really about Peer pressure and sh*tty apps, games, camera and social media.

I dont see any answer to it except try and get your kids interested in other things and curb youyr own usage- "monkey see, monkey do".
The answer has to be from a health angle.

Social media access can affect anyone's mental health, but for it to be inflicted on children so young is cruel and damaging. Kids can go through enough peer pressure and bullying when they're at school but, thanks to smartphones, they don't even get to escape it when they're at home. And many of these apps are designed to tap into the brain's dopamine response and manipulate the user's behaviour. There's a reason why so many of these tech-billionaires don't let their own children use them.
Yep to all of this.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:04 pm
by Dunners
Sh*t. Just realised I posted from the wrong account.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:10 pm
by StillSpike
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:25 am

I'd support a ban on all primary-school-age children being allowed to use them. If parents want to be able to call or text their kids then just get them an old fashioned basic mobile.
Agree. And then, when they get older, they can use it as a burner phone.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:34 pm
by LittleMate
How many more have tablets of some sort? I reckon that number is higher still. Phones or tablets they are all the same. No kid uses a phone to make a call these days.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:15 pm
by Long slender neck
Parental controls on, on the tablet. It'd be reckless not to for multiple reasons, one being every app is designed to part you with your cash.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:17 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Hasn’t even got an iPad. He can make do with an abacus

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:31 am
by Dunners
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:43 am
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:25 am Mine are too old now but, when they were at that age, smartphones were in their infancy. Personally, I think they are a curse on younger children.

I'd support a ban on all primary-school-age children being allowed to use them. If parents want to be able to call or text their kids then just get them an old fashioned basic mobile.
Exactly, if the justification is 'need to be in contact with kids' then a cheap dumbphone will do.

I think what its really about Peer pressure and sh*tty apps, games, camera and social media.

I dont see any answer to it except try and get your kids interested in other things and curb youyr own usage- "monkey see, monkey do".
The answer has to be from a health angle.

Social media access can affect anyone's mental health, but for it to be inflicted on children so young is cruel and damaging. Kids can go through enough peer pressure and bullying when they're at school but, thanks to smartphones, they don't even get to escape it when they're at home. And many of these apps are designed to tap into the brain's dopamine response and manipulate the user's behaviour. There's a reason why so many of these tech-billionaires don't let their own children use them.
I've no idea how they will enforce this, but the Australian government has announced that it is going to introduce a minimum age of 16 years old for social media use.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:58 am
by BIGRON
No , then again I don't have any kids 😂

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:35 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Yeah, my six year old posts on here as Yanzi Gravy

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:18 am
by JimbO
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:25 am Mine are too old now but, when they were at that age, smartphones were in their infancy. Personally, I think they are a curse on younger children.

I'd support a ban on all primary-school-age children being allowed to use them. If parents want to be able to call or text their kids then just get them an old fashioned basic mobile.
The same mine got a smartphone when she started secondary school.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:49 am
by soloman
I dont even have one and I despise all what they stand for .

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:13 pm
by Hoover Attack
soloman wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:49 am I dont even have one and I despise all what they stand for .
Totally agreed - I do have one and wish I didn’t.

But apparently you’re not allowed to send it back to the hospital once you’ve taken it home.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:30 pm
by Qin
All my children have smartphones.
I have no qualms about them spending as much time as they want on them
They're all in their thirties, & it's up to them how they spend their time!

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:39 pm
by Pugwash
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:43 am
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:25 am Mine are too old now but, when they were at that age, smartphones were in their infancy. Personally, I think they are a curse on younger children.

I'd support a ban on all primary-school-age children being allowed to use them. If parents want to be able to call or text their kids then just get them an old fashioned basic mobile.
Exactly, if the justification is 'need to be in contact with kids' then a cheap dumbphone will do.

I think what its really about Peer pressure and sh*tty apps, games, camera and social media.

I dont see any answer to it except try and get your kids interested in other things and curb youyr own usage- "monkey see, monkey do".
The answer has to be from a health angle.

Social media access can affect anyone's mental health, but for it to be inflicted on children so young is cruel and damaging. Kids can go through enough peer pressure and bullying when they're at school but, thanks to smartphones, they don't even get to escape it when they're at home. And many of these apps are designed to tap into the brain's dopamine response and manipulate the user's behaviour. There's a reason why so many of these tech-billionaires don't let their own children use them.
2nd & 3rd gen's are being switched off next year. Only smarts will be working so I've heard.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:32 pm
by Mick McQuaid
A complete ban seems a bit silly to me when they are going to have free access one at some point. Trying to teach sensible use seems better. The games are mindnumbingly awful but probably no worse than me being attached to a Donkey Kong handheld when I was about his age and the voice notes he sends to his friend that is definitely not his girlfriend are quite sweet.

I know everyone (well, almost everyone) wants the best for their kids but the children of parents who follow all the rules on screen time, no processed foods and regular bedtimes after the required 20 minutes of reading are generally awful little shites in my experience.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:39 pm
by Mick McQuaid
By the way he doesn't have his own, I just let him use mine with the agreement I can see what he's been up to afterwards. I don't have parental controls on, he knows he'd be in huge trouble if he bought something in an app and has never done it. I will at some point turn on controls for the internet, although I'd be quite disappointed if he doesn't fairly quickly work out how to bypass it.

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:54 pm
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
IMO having your kids out on a limb from their peers is damaging enough that that in itself is a good enough reason to not be massively Viz Modern Parents about phones, even if there are downsides to them

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:11 pm
by Long slender neck
Pugwash wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:39 pm
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:43 am

Exactly, if the justification is 'need to be in contact with kids' then a cheap dumbphone will do.

I think what its really about Peer pressure and sh*tty apps, games, camera and social media.

I dont see any answer to it except try and get your kids interested in other things and curb youyr own usage- "monkey see, monkey do".
The answer has to be from a health angle.

Social media access can affect anyone's mental health, but for it to be inflicted on children so young is cruel and damaging. Kids can go through enough peer pressure and bullying when they're at school but, thanks to smartphones, they don't even get to escape it when they're at home. And many of these apps are designed to tap into the brain's dopamine response and manipulate the user's behaviour. There's a reason why so many of these tech-billionaires don't let their own children use them.
2nd & 3rd gen's are being switched off next year. Only smarts will be working so I've heard.
Not true

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-bro ... witch-off/

Also note that dumbphones now tend to have 4g

Re: Do your children have smartphones?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:15 pm
by Long slender neck
Mick McQuaid wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:32 pm A complete ban seems a bit silly to me when they are going to have free access one at some point. Trying to teach sensible use seems better. The games are mindnumbingly awful but probably no worse than me being attached to a Donkey Kong handheld when I was about his age and the voice notes he sends to his friend that is definitely not his girlfriend are quite sweet.

I know everyone (well, almost everyone) wants the best for their kids but the children of parents who follow all the rules on screen time, no processed foods and regular bedtimes after the required 20 minutes of reading are generally awful little shites in my experience.
So much worse than donkey kong.

Full of ads, microtransactions, loot boxes (gambling), inappropriate material and that's before you consider that the game itself is often just absolute crap.

And if its something online like roblox it can be infested with paedophiles