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El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:37 am
by Monkey Boy
There’s going to be a lot of empty seats for the rest of the season.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:46 am
by Monkey Boy
Hey on the bright side at least the club house will be empty you should get a beer quick 👍

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:07 am
by ComeOnYouOs
It amazing how its the best players that get the worst injuries

El Miz, Graham, Agyei, Happe, Archibald, all get bad injuries

If some of the poorer players got injured we wouldnt miss them, but they rarely do

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:35 am
by RedDwarf 1881
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:07 am It amazing how its the best players that get the worst injuries

El Miz, Graham, Agyei, Happe, Archibald, all get bad injuries

If some of the poorer players got injured we wouldnt miss them, but they rarely do
Yes , it's ironic . We've had such bad luck with injuries this season and that's ultimately cost us at least a play off spot . I'm just grateful we're not involved in a relegation dogfight . I'm just hoping we've now got all our bad luck with injuries out the way and we can have a good crack at getting promotion next season

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:00 pm
by BoniO
It's a huge blow to lose El Miz but then again, we have nothing to play for so I just wish him well and hope he recovers fully. He's been huge for us since he came here but maybe another player might step up and do a fair impersonation of him.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:16 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
BoniO wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:00 pm It's a huge blow to lose El Miz but then again, we have nothing to play for so I just wish him well and hope he recovers fully. He's been huge for us since he came here but maybe another player might step up and do a fair impersonation of him.
To be honest I'd rather we tried to sign the genuine article on a permanent basis . Idris has been outstanding for us and if there's any player worth going out on a limb for it's him .'

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:23 pm
by cymruO
I do wonder if Ipswich are promoted they'll see a future for a player who's been on loan to a L1 side for 2 seasons.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:37 pm
by Reflecto
If Ipswich go up and he's injured (unfortunately for him and us) there might be a deal to be done - especially if promotion is our stated aim in 24/25

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:41 pm
by LittleMate
Others may not want to sign him if he's injured. May be to our benefit...

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:43 pm
by Max B Gold
LittleMate wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:41 pm Others may not want to sign him if he's injured. May be to our benefit...
I suspect that now he has a long term injury the club will pull out all the stops to get him in the building.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:49 pm
by OyinbO
cymruO wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:23 pm I do wonder if Ipswich are promoted they'll see a future for a player who's been on loan to a L1 side for 2 seasons.
He’s only been on loan to a League One club for one season.

It’s pretty clear they don’t see a future for him there at Ipswich. The only reason they’ll trigger his extra year is as leverage to get a fee for letting him go. The real question is whether we get outbid by another League One/Championship club, which seems probable.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:23 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Max B Gold wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:43 pm
LittleMate wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:41 pm Others may not want to sign him if he's injured. May be to our benefit...
I suspect that now he has a long term injury the club will pull out all the stops to get him in the building.
In the case of Idris he'd be worth it .

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:25 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
LittleMate wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:41 pm Others may not want to sign him if he's injured. May be to our benefit...
Hopefully that's the case .

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:44 pm
by Story of O
Why would teams not sign him? He will be able to play next season

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:46 pm
by The Reverend
This could actually be a blessing in disguise for us. With Idris missing for the remaining fixtures of the season - where we have nothing to play for - will demonstrate how vital it is we either sign him permanently or find a suitable replacement as soon as possible when the summer transfer window opens.

I’d rather we realise how we have nobody in this squad who can do a fraction of the job he does at the tail end of this season than in the first load of games next season, when it’ll be too late.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:31 pm
by OyinbO
Good as Idris is for this level, it's actually one area where we're pretty well stocked. Brown, Sanders, Galbraith... the latter in particular could end up being even better in time.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:00 pm
by Hoover Attack
OyinbO wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:31 pm Good as Idris is for this level, it's actually one area where we're pretty well stocked. Brown, Sanders, Galbraith... the latter in particular could end up being even better in time.
We have lots of players but none come close to his level.

We saw what a midfield of Brown and Galbraith looked like away at Bolton….

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:25 pm
by OyinbO
Hoover Attack wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:00 pm
OyinbO wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:31 pm Good as Idris is for this level, it's actually one area where we're pretty well stocked. Brown, Sanders, Galbraith... the latter in particular could end up being even better in time.
We have lots of players but none come close to his level.

We saw what a midfield of Brown and Galbraith looked like away at Bolton….
I wouldn’t dispute El-Miz has been the best this season. But they’re all still young and developing quickly. Galbraith hasn’t had much of a run in his preferred position yet. He in particular has a lot more to offer than what we’ve seen so far.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:06 am
by BiggsyMalone
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:35 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:07 am It amazing how its the best players that get the worst injuries

El Miz, Graham, Agyei, Happe, Archibald, all get bad injuries

If some of the poorer players got injured we wouldnt miss them, but they rarely do
Yes , it's ironic . We've had such bad luck with injuries this season and that's ultimately cost us at least a play off spot . I'm just grateful we're not involved in a relegation dogfight . I'm just hoping we've now got all our bad luck with injuries out the way and we can have a good crack at getting promotion next season
Orient weren’t making the playoffs with or without the players mentioned.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:11 am
by whittle76
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:07 am It amazing how its the best players that get the worst injuries

El Miz, Graham, Agyei, Happe, Archibald, all get bad injuries

If some of the poorer players got injured we wouldnt miss them, but they rarely do
Which poorer players are you referring to?

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:28 am
by bacon
What 2 fantastic loan spells.

Added such grit to the middle of the park and so many important recoveries. Really thrived working with Pratley.

Not often you see a loan player as captain - and the 81 starts shows how core he has been to the side.

Clearly likes the club and management team and sees his growth with the opportunities the club has given him,

Question may come down to Orient matching the ambitions an finance of a move to a bigger spending side eg Shef Wed, Charlton, Wrexham, Reading (under new owners)

Would love to be proved wrong but feels like the last we will see of him.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:52 am
by Hoover Attack
OyinbO wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:25 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:00 pm
OyinbO wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:31 pm Good as Idris is for this level, it's actually one area where we're pretty well stocked. Brown, Sanders, Galbraith... the latter in particular could end up being even better in time.
We have lots of players but none come close to his level.

We saw what a midfield of Brown and Galbraith looked like away at Bolton….
I wouldn’t dispute El-Miz has been the best this season. But they’re all still young and developing quickly. Galbraith hasn’t had much of a run in his preferred position yet. He in particular has a lot more to offer than what we’ve seen so far.
I like all of Brown, Galbraith and Sanders. A lot. Brown has especially impressed with how much he's improved and adjusted to this level.

But we definitely need to replace Idris, not rely on the existing guys stepping up.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:00 am
by whittle76
Richie still has options tomorrow as he can bring back in Moncur or Galbraith and maybe now a place on the bench for Obiero or Pegrum.

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:48 am
by RedDwarf 1881
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:06 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:35 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:07 am It amazing how its the best players that get the worst injuries

El Miz, Graham, Agyei, Happe, Archibald, all get bad injuries

If some of the poorer players got injured we wouldnt miss them, but they rarely do
Yes , it's ironic . We've had such bad luck with injuries this season and that's ultimately cost us at least a play off spot . I'm just grateful we're not involved in a relegation dogfight . I'm just hoping we've now got all our bad luck with injuries out the way and we can have a good crack at getting promotion next season
Orient weren’t making the playoffs with or without the players mentioned.
I disagree . Look at the difference Agyei made when he played in the team . We've had games this season where we've been totally dominate but without Ageyi our chances went begging . For example I'm sure we would have gotten more from our home games against Bristol Rovers and Port Vale if he'd been playing . The people on here who said the failure to sign an experienced striker in January would turn around and bite us on the arse have been proven correct .

Re: El Miz out for the season

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:12 pm
by gshaw
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:48 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:06 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:35 am

Yes , it's ironic . We've had such bad luck with injuries this season and that's ultimately cost us at least a play off spot . I'm just grateful we're not involved in a relegation dogfight . I'm just hoping we've now got all our bad luck with injuries out the way and we can have a good crack at getting promotion next season
Orient weren’t making the playoffs with or without the players mentioned.
I disagree . Look at the difference Agyei made when he played in the team . We've had games this season where we've been totally dominate but without Ageyi our chances went begging . For example I'm sure we would have gotten more from our home games against Bristol Rovers and Port Vale if he'd been playing . The people on here who said the failure to sign an experienced striker in January would turn around and bite us on the arse have been proven correct .
Yup we carried a far greater attacking threat with Agyei doing both holdup play and finishing chances. You can't go a full season with only one competent striker in that central position and something that needs to be remedied in summer if we're serious about next season.