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Blue Cards
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:45 pm
by Top of the JES
A new card being considered next season to counter dissent and cynical foul play. Referees can brandish a Blue card which will mean a 10 minute stay in a sin-bin, two yellows and/or two blues or a combination of will equate to a red, likely to be in use in the FA Cup next season and in all EFL games from 2025-26.
Will definitely have an affect on the O's unless they tidy up their act.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:52 am
by ChorizO
No thanks. Don’t like this idea at all. What’s wrong with a bit of dissent? Football can't be totally sanitised.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:14 am
by LittleMate
ChorizO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:52 am
No thanks. Don’t like this idea at all. What’s wrong with a bit of dissent? Football can't be totally sanitised.
If I was a ref, I'd be sending 2 a game off. Ignore their competence, would you do that job for the grief the get. Also, all of the tactical fouls that stop break aways will now get a harsher form of punishment. I'm for it as something needs doing. If it don't work it will be scrapped but its not something that will ruin the game.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:44 am
by EliotNes
Why does football need an extra card, sin-bin for 10 mins those who get a yellow, I'm pretty sure that would stop a good deal of the misdemeanours.
And, I still fail to understand why refs are reluctant to give out yellows in the first half. We've all seen fouls committed in the first 30 mins, where the player does not get a card, usually just a talking to, yet the same/very similar foul in the last 30 mins gets a card. Look at the BBC match stats and there are invariably more cards in the second half, than the first.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:14 am
by Stan1972
Total rubbish idea, will ruin football, stick your sin bins and blue cards up your ar$e, it will so subjective and will just cause so much confusion, and we have enough confusion in football already with VAR.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:17 am
by DrWindy
Stan1972 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:14 am
Total rubbish idea, will ruin football, stick your sin bins and blue cards up your ar$e, it will so subjective and will just cause so much confusion, and we have enough confusion in football already with VAR.
Absolutely. Just enforce the current rules properly.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:35 am
by Proposition Joe
Exactly, the current rules are fine if people actually enforced them.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:42 am
by Constanza
Would they work in this place?
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:45 am
by Proposition Joe
Just banned you for 10 minutes so let's find out.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:55 am
by Constanza
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:45 am
Just banned you for 10 minutes so let's find out.
That worked very well. Enjoyed the Blue OFF notification that popped up on my phone, with countdown timer.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:57 am
by Mick McQuaid
EliotNes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:44 am
Why does football need an extra card, sin-bin for 10 mins those who get a yellow, I'm pretty sure that would stop a good deal of the misdemeanours.
And, I still fail to understand why refs are reluctant to give out yellows in the first half. We've all seen fouls committed in the first 30 mins, where the player does not get a card, usually just a talking to, yet the same/very similar foul in the last 30 mins gets a card. Look at the BBC match stats and there are invariably more cards in the second half, than the first.
Persistent offenses. Pretty common in sports, isn't it? Warning and then sanction.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:59 am
by Long slender neck
Dont understand why this is required when we already have yellow cards.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:07 am
by Mick McQuaid
The last sensible change to the rules of football was 3 points for a win.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:08 am
by BoniO
DrWindy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:17 am
Stan1972 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:14 am
Total rubbish idea, will ruin football, stick your sin bins and blue cards up your ar$e, it will so subjective and will just cause so much confusion, and we have enough confusion in football already with VAR.
Absolutely. Just enforce the current rules properly.
Spot on. No need to complicate the situation - just get refs in football to enforce the rules akin to refs in Rugby i. e. take no sh-it off players (or managers).
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:10 am
by Proposition Joe
Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:57 am
EliotNes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:44 am
Why does football need an extra card, sin-bin for 10 mins those who get a yellow, I'm pretty sure that would stop a good deal of the misdemeanours.
And, I still fail to understand why refs are reluctant to give out yellows in the first half. We've all seen fouls committed in the first 30 mins, where the player does not get a card, usually just a talking to, yet the same/very similar foul in the last 30 mins gets a card. Look at the BBC match stats and there are invariably more cards in the second half, than the first.
Persistent offenses. Pretty common in sports, isn't it? Warning and then sanction.
It'll just be something else for people to moan about and pundits to pore over, with the usual accusations of bias and/or refereeing incompetence. Thinking how it works in other sports, the Wales - Fiji Rugby World Cup game last autumn saw Fiji get pinged and a player yellow carded/sin binned for a first offence while Wales had got away with several similar ones in the immediate run up. Football will be the same, with bigger sides getting the rub of the green.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:13 am
by Give it to Jabo
Really no need to complicate things…only see further havoc and confusion ahead. Sort out VAR first, you imbeciles.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:23 am
by Hoover Attack
EliotNes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:44 am
Why does football need an extra card, sin-bin for 10 mins those who get a yellow, I'm pretty sure that would stop a good deal of the misdemeanours.
You've answered your own question there.
EliotNes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:44 am
And, I still fail to understand why refs are reluctant to give out yellows in the first half. We've all seen fouls committed in the first 30 mins, where the player does not get a card, usually just a talking to, yet the same/very similar foul in the last 30 mins gets a card. Look at the BBC match stats and there are invariably more cards in the second half, than the first.
Agreed - this is absolutely a thing (and totally different to the totting up/persistent offending mentioned above). Everyone knows you can put one in early and have a good chance of getting away with it.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:24 am
by Hoover Attack
Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:07 am
The last sensible change to the rules of football was 3 points for a win.
No backpasses to goalkeepers.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:27 am
by Hoover Attack
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:59 am
Dont understand why this is required when we already have yellow cards.
It's like a Yellow*.
Agreed with the general consensus though, it's unnecessary, just need refs to enforce existing laws properly. Can you imagine the timewasting that would go on as the 10 minute counter ticked down?
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:30 am
by Long slender neck
What happens if a goalkeeper is blue carded?
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:34 am
by Hoover Attack
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:30 am
What happens if a goalkeeper is blue carded?
Someone else goes in goal for 10 mins, or you sub a GK on, then sub him off when the 10 mins are up.
More likely though, refs would be reluctant to blue card them, just like they don't have to leave the pitch after treatment.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:44 am
by Mistadobalina
Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:07 am
The last sensible change to the rules of football was 3 points for a win.
Goal line technology objectively works well. I'd argue three substitutes being allowed also good. No passing back to the keeper as mentioned obviously makes sense.
In general cutting down on dangerous play a positive.
They need to seriously rework the handball rules so that it's only penalising egregious examples, and indirect free kicks for more minor fouls in the box, would be positive changes imo.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:50 am
by Mick McQuaid
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:24 am
Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:07 am
The last sensible change to the rules of football was 3 points for a win.
No backpasses to goalkeepers.
Nah, a keeper making one of the opposition run to the ball before picking it up was great entertainment.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:08 am
by JimbO
always thought if you were going to bring in a sin bin it should be for yellow cards for five minutes.
Re: Blue Cards
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:26 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:07 am
The last sensible change to the rules of football was 3 points for a win.
Exactly . This blue card idea is complete nonsense .