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Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:23 pm
by Long slender neck
Ultra-processed foods usually contain ingredients that you wouldn’t add when cooking homemade food. You may not recognise the names of these ingredients as many will be chemicals, colourings, sweeteners and preservatives. The most commonly eaten ultra-processed foods in the UK are:

Industrialised bread (11%)
Pre-packaged meals (7.7%)
Breakfast cereals (4.4%)
Sausages and other reconstituted meat products (3.8%)

These are closely followed by the expected confectionery (3.5%), biscuits (3.5%), pastries, buns and cakes (3.3%) and industrial chips (2.8%). Soft drinks, fruit drinks and fruit juices make up 2.5% of the average calorie intake. Salty snacks, including Britain’s beloved crisps, make up 2% of our calories, as do sauces, dressings and the Sunday favourite, gravy (2.1%).

More surprising to some will be what is included in the 3% of calories that the average person eats from “other ultra-processed foods”. This includes baked beans, tinned soups, meat alternatives, soy and drinks used as dairy milk substitutes.

It can be tricky to identify food that has been ultra-processed because in some cases the same type of food could be minimally processed, processed or ultra-processed, depending on how it’s been made. For example:

Bread made from wheat flour, water, salt and yeast is processed, but add emulsifiers or colourings and it becomes ultra-processed.
Plain oats, corn flakes and shredded wheat are minimally processed, but when the manufacturer adds sugar, flavourings or colourings, they become ultra-processed breakfast cereals.
Plain yoghurt is minimally processed, but add sweeteners, preservatives, stabilisers or colourings and it becomes ultra-processed.

When food has been processed, studies show that the nutrient availability in the small intestine is affected. This is because the plant properties and animal cells have been altered. Issues arise when ultra-processed foods begin replacing unprocessed and minimally processed foods, which contain vital nutrients, in your diet. A whopping 56% of the calories that the average person in the UK eats come from ultra-processed foods.
I am always trying to improve my diet, but avoiding UPF's looks really difficult. I think I'd starve to death.

Breakfast looks a struggle, typically I'd have cereal. Whats left? Porridge, fruit or an egg?
Wouldnt the majority of bread sold be UPF? So thats toast and most lunches f*cked.
Dinner not too bad, plenty of options there.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:02 pm
by Proposition Joe
Looked into this a while ago and it was too depressing. Would love to be able to only buy small batch sourdough but cost of living crisis says no, so supermarket bread is the way to go. That said, the way it stays 'fresh' for f*cking weeks compared to some of the pittas and flatbreads we get from the local Turkish shop which go mouldy in about 72 hours is definitely alarming. Really don't want to know what goes in it.

Nothing wrong with porridge though. Get onto overnight oats with pinhead oats - gamechanger.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:17 pm
by Proposition Joe

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:26 pm
by OyinbO

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:55 pm
by EliotNes
I've eaten all sorts in my lifetime when I've been working/holidaying overseas, sometimes I wonder how I've survived, especially after whatever I ate in Singapore one time put me into the ICU in hospital for a week - they never did find out the cause - and I'll carry on doing the same. Live life to the full :lol: :lol:

Seriously, Mrs NES tries to get more healthy food into our meals at home, with varying degrees of success.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:58 pm
by Mick McQuaid
Proposition Joe wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:02 pm Looked into this a while ago and it was too depressing. Would love to be able to only buy small batch sourdough but cost of living crisis says no, so supermarket bread is the way to go. That said, the way it stays 'fresh' for f*cking weeks compared to some of the pittas and flatbreads we get from the local Turkish shop which go mouldy in about 72 hours is definitely alarming. Really don't want to know what goes in it.

Nothing wrong with porridge though. Get onto overnight oats with pinhead oats - gamechanger.
Making sourdough is really easy and fun for kids too. I always neglect the starter after a few months but seeded flour seems to be foolproof for starting a new one.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:05 pm
by Long slender neck
Thanks, I didn't know these were meant to be eaten cold.

I've thrown together a quick bowlful for tomorrow, the Skippy didn't mix well but i think this might be nice. Skippy and syrup possibly UPFs though.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:19 pm
by Proposition Joe
What's Skippy?

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:26 pm
by BIGRON
EliotNes wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:55 pm I've eaten all sorts in my lifetime when I've been working/holidaying overseas, sometimes I wonder how I've survived, especially after whatever I ate in Singapore one time put me into the ICU in hospital for a week - they never did find out the cause - and I'll carry on doing the same. Live life to the full :lol: :lol:

Seriously, Mrs NES tries to get more healthy food into our meals at home, with varying degrees of success.
Visited Singapore a few years ago for a 3 night stop off to Australia , ate every meal in some king of street market , best food ever and no repercussions 🤔🤔

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:43 pm
by Long slender neck
Proposition Joe wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:19 pm What's Skippy?
Peanut butter

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:28 pm
by Hoover Attack
Why?

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:30 pm
by Long slender neck
What?

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:42 pm
by B.whitehouse+10more
Long slender neck wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:43 pm
Proposition Joe wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:19 pm What's Skippy?
Peanut butter
Thought he was a kangaroo

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:42 pm
by Friend or fart
The minute you start cooking, all food becomes processed, innit? Be wary, even normal stuff can be painted bad, even when it is essential. Salt has an E number. Yankee food is diabolical. Full of artificial flavourings & colourings. The Tories would like to emulate the Yanks, because all their additives makes for cheaper food processing. Eggs are dodgy because the way chickens are reared. Fresh veg is good, but even fruit etc is treated to look good or to stay " fresher" longer.
My motto is, if you like it eat it & I am 76 . Worrying about stuff will do you more harm than most of the stuff you worry about

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:27 am
by EliotNes
BIGRON wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:26 pm Visited Singapore a few years ago for a 3 night stop off to Australia , ate every meal in some king of street market , best food ever and no repercussions 🤔🤔
If that's the place at the bottom end of Orchard Road, near the Holiday Inn, I know it well. But I hadn't eaten there that trip. I've been to Singapore 20+ times and only had an illness experience that once.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:26 pm
by Long slender neck
The overnight oats were alright, its a fancy name for gruel isnt it? Health rating will depend on what you put in it, I suppose.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:32 pm
by Proposition Joe
Were these your bog standard oats or your pinhead ones? Nothing wrong with the former but the latter are 👌

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:40 pm
by Hoover Attack
Long slender neck wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:30 pm What?
Why is peanut butter called skippy? Never heard that before and cant see the link.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:33 pm
by LittleMate
Proposition Joe wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:32 pm Were these your bog standard oats or your pinhead ones? Nothing wrong with the former but the latter are 👌
Not tried the pinhead ones and I cannot get on with the softness of overnight oats - but porridge is my morning staple food. Sainsburys be good to yourself oats hit the spot for me.

As for the subject, I think that its "everything in moderation". Everything is processed to some degree these days.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:12 pm
by Proposition Joe
Not to bang on about them - I'm not in the pocket of Big Pinhead, I promise - but if you don't like the softness of overnight oats, they're a bit nuttier feeling and have a bit more bite to them so probably a good alternative to try.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:20 pm
by Long slender neck
Hoover Attack wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:40 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:30 pm What?
Why is peanut butter called skippy? Never heard that before and cant see the link.
Its a brand name.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:20 pm
by Long slender neck
Never heard of any of these fancy oats.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:50 pm
by Proposition Joe
We get these: https://www.buywholefoodsonline.co.uk/o ... AoQAvD_BwE

Fair bit dearer, granted, but balanced out by buying supermarket Death Bread.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:14 pm
by Dunners
I've tried reading this thread, but it seems like you lot are writing in a different language.

Re: Ultra Processed Food

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:20 pm
by Constanza
I've read it whilst eating a whole pack of Cheese and Onion Twists.