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Is OFF your lawyer?

We’re both mature enough not to let our animosity get in the way - he needs the big bucks I’m paying him, I need the legal advice. Win win.

This is what Comic Sans was made for.

Wally Banter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:03 pm This is what Comic Sans was made for.

It’s Chalkboard SE; I’m not made of money!

You should have done it in Century Old Style or Palace Script.

Steady on, it’s not that serious yet.

Anyways for avoidance of any and all doubt - I was and am very happy to never, ever engage with him, not even to “like” a post, if he can rein himself in from talking about me. The “likes” are demonstrably an obvious direct result of the fact that he’s still constantly talking about me. I can’t stop him talking about me, he can do what he likes. But when he does, I’ll “like” a post of his to show that I have seen that he’s doing it, and am not giving him the response.

Can’t say fairer than that. Unless of course, he wants free rein to talk about how I should be banned, free rein to call me (and everyone else that notices) obsessed when we call him on it, and to be angry about this small thing which means this “I’ve seen you trying to draw me in, and I’m not biting”

But hats off, he got a bite here, and in glorious Comic Sans

*Chalkboard SE

The manipulation and gaslighting continues.

1. I never said I was “offended”. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of whining about me not ignoring you and then when I did ignore you you start liking my posts, usually in clusters, to get my attention

2. The claim that you only started liking my comments in bulk because I kept talking about you is also nonsense. You started liking my comments in bulk after I started actively ignoring you.

3. Accusing another boarder of “crying like a baby” is the height of hypocrisy when you started a prolonged attack on a moderator because you were a little bit upset about something they said.

4. You’ve clearly taken the decision to prolong this feud, setting up this thread on the assumption that my engagement with it will result in a perma ban and you, at most, will get a temp ban which is a price you’re willing to pay. You already goaded another boarder into getting banned whilst I was ignoring you and are obviously in the process of trying to goad that Daily Express Bot account into doing the same.

5. You tend to target users who have differing political opinions to you, or have takes on social issues which you deem “wrong”. This isn’t the case with me, but I suspect your desperation to get me perma banned stems from the fact that I’m one of the few users on here who can be bothered to call out your blatant hypocrisy & manipulative behaviour which you try to hide behind your “oh you guys all know me, I get a bit obsessed with things and can be argumentative” schtick as if that somehow justifies your quite nasty behaviour all carried out in an endless pursuit of seeking validation from strangers on a message football message board that you are “right” about everything from the conflict in Israel to trans rights.

I also see through your tactic of appealing to the fact that you’ve been around for ages, referring to others users by what I assume are previous usernames on old versions of the board and utilising in-jokes which I assume the comic sans thing is all about.

Fascinating to learn that poor, innocent greyhound was only banned after being physically compelled to make yet another grossly offensive post - almost as if he was possessed as his gnarled fingers clawed at his keyboard - purely by the spirit of CEB's obstinacy. One for Michael Aspel's Strange But True.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:31 pm Fascinating to learn that poor, innocent greyhound was only banned after being physically compelled to make yet another grossly offensive post - almost as if he was possessed as his gnarled fingers clawed at his keyboard - purely by the spirit of CEB's obstinacy. One for Michael Aspel's Strange But True.

Greyhounds views are irrelevant.

The point is that he have a user who can go around goading whoever he doesn’t like into bans, continue feuds with borders and hide behind some convoluted gaslighting about how it’s not his fault, and even gets to abuse moderators when he gets upset.

Yeah. The moderators dread returning from their tea break only to see the trans debate thread has been bumped and the last post is by CEB.

You're doubling down on the fact that he genuinely *makes* people get banned and they have no free will to avoid this certain fate? Astonishing.

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:36 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:31 pm Fascinating to learn that poor, innocent greyhound was only banned after being physically compelled to make yet another grossly offensive post - almost as if he was possessed as his gnarled fingers clawed at his keyboard - purely by the spirit of CEB's obstinacy. One for Michael Aspel's Strange But True.

Greyhounds views are irrelevant.

The point is that he have a user who can go around goading whoever he doesn’t like into bans, continue feuds with borders and hide behind some convoluted gaslighting about how it’s not his fault, and even gets to abuse moderators when he gets upset.

I hope he stops his current strategy soon - you are getting more likes than the rest of us put together.

I think I'll just let you two talk this one out.

'Come on you O's!'

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:42 pm You're doubling down on the fact that he genuinely *makes* people get banned and they have no free will to avoid this certain fate? Astonishing.

You do realise that you’re saying this on a thread where your buddy is literally accusing me of “making” him continue this feud.

So to clarify:

1. other users getting goaded into responding to him resulting in a ban = it’s their own free will they are solely to blame

2. Continuing a feud with me, starting up entire threads to do so, claiming that I’ve goaded them into taking this action = nothing to do with the person setting up the thread.

As you say, astonishing.

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:06 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:42 pm You're doubling down on the fact that he genuinely *makes* people get banned and they have no free will to avoid this certain fate? Astonishing.

You do realise that you’re saying this on a thread where your buddy is literally accusing me of “making” him continue this feud.

So to clarify:

1. other users getting goaded into responding to him resulting in a ban = it’s their own free will they are solely to blame

2. Continuing a feud with me, starting up entire threads to do so, claiming that I’ve goaded them into taking this action = nothing to do with the person setting up the thread.

As you say, astonishing.

It’s irrelevant what he says he will get judged on that by the Mods it’s the fact that you keep reacting to it that’s your problem

Rev, the fact is that you continued the hostility because of your mistaken assumption that after I stuck you on foe, I resumed hostility under the “Brian Whitehouse” “alias”

You went from, on New Year’s Eve, being like “fun having a duel with you!” straight back to “CEB is harassing me!!” purely because of your erroneous and groundless belief that I was using an alias. I referred to it here, a month ago

CEB wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:51 pm The funny thing is, I did have him on foe, and the fact that he thinks you’re me seems to have sparked him to completely abandon the “fair enough! Was fun having an online feud with you!!! Happy new year!” response he gave me, and to instead seemingly have posted incessantly about me in the mean time, all based on not accepting that someone might agree with me.

I wonder if he will say “ah, sorry, I did jump to conclusions and my behaviour now seems a bit odd”
My money is on that he won’t. I wonder though, if he’ll double down or quietly just abandon the idea that I’ve been using aliases to keep up a feud that I don’t have any interest in pursuing?
Fascinating stuff.

You based your entire idea that I was attempting to bully you on your totally wrong idea that I abused you under a different name, when in fact it’s just that some other people have found you to be a bit daft. And since then - despite me largely ignoring you until you got yourself banned - you have (as everyone has seen) referred to me multiple times, accused me of having other aliases etc, and now - despite you actively and repeatedly calling for me to be banned permanently - you’re projecting onto me a non existent idea that I’m somehow manipulating people into being banned.
Considering that this crusade is now causing you to be like “no, no, the gross homophobia isn’t relevant! It’s that CEB MADE him do it”, it seems you’ve kind of chosen a strange position here. Which you’re free to do, I suppose.

As yet, you have not, even once, said “ah. If you’re not B.Whitehouse - and it seems you’re not - then that puts a different sheen on things - can we please go back to ignoring each other?”



So - you still have the power here. Agree here and now that you will stop talking about me, and then if I “like” your posts or make a snide comment, then everyone will see that I’m the problem. I’m happy to say that if you leave me alone, I won’t feel any need to comment on your posts, or even like them.

Or, you can say “I won’t do that because I don’t see why someone so toxic should bla bla bla”, in which case - fine by me, just don’t pretend that you aren’t actively participating and prolonging a feud that exists entirely in your head, because you were not even on my radar until you centred yourself in the Israel argument between me and LSN

CEB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 pm We’re both mature enough not to let our animosity get in the way - he needs the big bucks I’m paying him, I need the legal advice. Win win.

Can we do a revamped You Are The OFF but with OFF responding to legal queries?

Yes

CEB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:15 pm Rev, the fact is that you continued the hostility because of your mistaken assumption that after I stuck you on foe, I resumed hostility under the “Brian Whitehouse” “alias”

You went from, on New Year’s Eve, being like “fun having a duel with you!” straight back to “CEB is harassing me!!” purely because of your erroneous and groundless belief that I was using an alias. I referred to it here, a month ago

CEB wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:51 pm The funny thing is, I did have him on foe, and the fact that he thinks you’re me seems to have sparked him to completely abandon the “fair enough! Was fun having an online feud with you!!! Happy new year!” response he gave me, and to instead seemingly have posted incessantly about me in the mean time, all based on not accepting that someone might agree with me.

I wonder if he will say “ah, sorry, I did jump to conclusions and my behaviour now seems a bit odd”
My money is on that he won’t. I wonder though, if he’ll double down or quietly just abandon the idea that I’ve been using aliases to keep up a feud that I don’t have any interest in pursuing?
Fascinating stuff.

You based your entire idea that I was attempting to bully you on your totally wrong idea that I abused you under a different name, when in fact it’s just that some other people have found you to be a bit daft. And since then - despite me largely ignoring you until you got yourself banned - you have (as everyone has seen) referred to me multiple times, accused me of having other aliases etc, and now - despite you actively and repeatedly calling for me to be banned permanently - you’re projecting onto me a non existent idea that I’m somehow manipulating people into being banned.
Considering that this crusade is now causing you to be like “no, no, the gross homophobia isn’t relevant! It’s that CEB MADE him do it”, it seems you’ve kind of chosen a strange position here. Which you’re free to do, I suppose.

As yet, you have not, even once, said “ah. If you’re not B.Whitehouse - and it seems you’re not - then that puts a different sheen on things - can we please go back to ignoring each other?”



So - you still have the power here. Agree here and now that you will stop talking about me, and then if I “like” your posts or make a snide comment, then everyone will see that I’m the problem. I’m happy to say that if you leave me alone, I won’t feel any need to comment on your posts, or even like them.

Or, you can say “I won’t do that because I don’t see why someone so toxic should bla bla bla”, in which case - fine by me, just don’t pretend that you aren’t actively participating and prolonging a feud that exists entirely in your head, because you were not even on my radar until you centred yourself in the Israel argument between me and LSN

You tried the whole controlling “do what I demand” schtick with LSN and it didn’t work. The fact that you literally write out what you want other borders to say to appease you is properly strange behaviour.

You’re a liar as well. I’ve ignored you since I was banned and yet I have multiple screenshots of you trying to get my attention since then. Your waffle about New Years Eve is completely irrelevant.

As pointed out previously, your claim that I interposed myself in your private argument with LSN has no credibility whatsoever when you are the one who set up an entire thread to do have the argument and dragged the feud into various other threads/conversations at the time.

As mentioned when I first came back: I genuinely enjoy using this board to talk about Orient and ask the occasional philosophical question. Interestingly the other day you accused me of setting up a thread about resurrection purely to save face. You drew some convoluted comparison with Jack Monroe. Another example of your nasty manipulative behaviour where you get to force people into corners which you think allows you to “win”.

If I mention you = I’m obsessed & trying to continue a feud
If I set up a thread on a topic which has nothing to do with you = I’m just saving face

You can manipulate others into frustrated outbursts towards you but I’m fully aware of your hypocrisy and manipulative behaviour and I will continue to call it out when I see it.

The whole “Rev can’t ever talk about me again otherwise it proves he’s the one who wants the feud” is yet more manipulative nonsense. I saw that snide comment about the board being a pleasant place “for about a week” which was clearly a reference to me being banned. But done in a cowardly way by not naming me so that if I do call it out you get to play the “you think that I’m talking about you when I’m not”. I can see through all of your nasty manipulative behaviour. So I can’t mention you but it’s perfectly acceptable for you to make snide backhanded references to me.

For the record, I’m not convinced that you don’t use aliases.

So that’s a “no I won’t ignore you”, then?

Got it. I’ll get back to ignoring you, but you’ll get a “like” every time you mention or refer to me, which will mean “lol you can’t resist trying to continue this”

ttfn x

CEB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:43 pm So that’s a “no I won’t ignore you”, then?

Got it. I’ll get back to ignoring you, but you’ll get a “like” every time, which will mean “lol you can’t resist trying to continue this”

ttfn x

As usual, running off when your hypocritical and manipulative behaviour is called out, with clear examples and evidence.

Why don’t you just ignore me completely? Foe me. That way you’ll never see my comments. And providing you don’t mention me either directly or via snide “I wasn’t talking about YOU” (nudge nudge wink wink) style comments that you like to use then the problem is solved.

I’m only really interested in talking about Leyton Orient anyway. Something you almost never do. So our paths shouldn’t cross.

CEB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:43 pm So that’s a “no I won’t ignore you”, then?

Got it. I’ll get back to ignoring you, but you’ll get a “like” every time you mention or refer to me, which will mean “lol you can’t resist trying to continue this”

ttfn x

Genuine question, as you have continued to like every comment I’ve posted since your last comment on here and also some from the other day. None of which have anything to do with you really (apart from one on the pictures thread) what will it take for you to genuinely start ignoring me? This includes putting me on foe & not putting a like on every single comment I post to get my attention.

Do you want to me say something in a specific way that you will draft for me or set up a thread declaring you smartest person on the internet or something? It’s hard to keep track of your demands. What exactly is it that you want to stop your prolonged strop, which has continued long after I actually started ignoring you.