Independent Leyton Orient Forum

4 January

Luke Armstrong [Harrogate - Carlisle] Undisclosed
Sean Grehan [Crystal Palace - Carlisle] Loan
Jack Moylan [Shelbourne - Lincoln City] Free
Harrison Neal [Sheff Utd - Carlisle] Undisclosed
Jed Steer [Unattached - Peterborough]
Ronan Coughlan [Waterford - Fleetwood] Undisclosed
Conor Wilkinson (Motherwell - Colchester United) Undisclosed
Luke Harris [Fulham - Exeter] Loan
Richard Kone [Athletic Newham - Wycombe] Undisclosed

Rotherham United have recalled wing-back Peter Kioso from his loan spell at Peterborough United. Cheltenham have returned six of its seven loan players to their parent clubs.

Bergen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:37 pm 4 January

Luke Armstrong [Harrogate - Carlisle] Undisclosed
Sean Grehan [Crystal Palace - Carlisle] Loan
Jack Moylan [Shelbourne - Lincoln City] Free
Harrison Neal [Sheff Utd - Carlisle] Undisclosed
Jed Steer [Unattached - Peterborough]
Ronan Coughlan [Waterford - Fleetwood] Undisclosed
Conor Wilkinson (Motherwell - Colchester United) Undisclosed
Luke Harris [Fulham - Exeter] Loan
Richard Kone [Athletic Newham - Wycombe] Undisclosed

Rotherham United have recalled wing-back Peter Kioso from his loan spell at Peterborough United. Cheltenham have returned six of its seven loan players to their parent clubs.

Carlisle have been busy

Luke Armstrong is a great signing for Carlise
Hope they beat the drop

Arent Colchester league two?

It does show that the vast majority of L1 clubs have yet to bring anyone in - we are not alone.

Conor Wilkinson has done absolutely nothing for a terrible Motherwell side, certainly didn't justify having a poncey shirt number like 99.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:01 am Conor Wilkinson has done absolutely nothing for a terrible Motherwell side, certainly didn't justify having a poncey shirt number like 99.

You and your number obsession. Get over it.

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:32 am Luke Armstrong is a great signing for Carlise
Hope they beat the drop

Why is he a great signing for Carlisle , only one goal in 15 appearances . You would be going mad if we signed a player with those stats !

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:05 am

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:01 am Conor Wilkinson has done absolutely nothing for a terrible Motherwell side, certainly didn't justify having a poncey shirt number like 99.

You and your number obsession. Get over it.

But was his a number 9 who thought he was 11 times better, or a number 10 that was only 9.9 time better? Or was he a flake? These things matter.

spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:15 pm

Bergen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:37 pm 4 January

Luke Armstrong [Harrogate - Carlisle] Undisclosed
Sean Grehan [Crystal Palace - Carlisle] Loan
Jack Moylan [Shelbourne - Lincoln City] Free
Harrison Neal [Sheff Utd - Carlisle] Undisclosed
Jed Steer [Unattached - Peterborough]
Ronan Coughlan [Waterford - Fleetwood] Undisclosed
Conor Wilkinson (Motherwell - Colchester United) Undisclosed
Luke Harris [Fulham - Exeter] Loan
Richard Kone [Athletic Newham - Wycombe] Undisclosed

Rotherham United have recalled wing-back Peter Kioso from his loan spell at Peterborough United. Cheltenham have returned six of its seven loan players to their parent clubs.

Carlisle have been busy

Yes they have and good luck to them, our short break has fell nicely for the O’s and a good Christmas has basically given the green light not to sign anyone,supporters at the Cambridge game we’re saying exactly that. If they sign someone I would expect it to be a wide player?and my guess it won’t be until the end of January as to save on wages unless they loan someone out.

Why do some think we are safe and signing players is not so important. Even the teams near the top will try to improve their squads

Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:28 pm Why do some think we are safe and signing players is not so important. Even the teams near the top will try to improve their squads

Based on Wellens’ latest interview where he basically said that he has no interest in the business of signing players I honestly don’t think we will bring in anyone of note. At best a loan or two of kids who have never played league football. I suppose that’s better than previous years where we signed blokes who hadn’t played competitive football for over a year (Lyden)

Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:28 pm Why do some think we are safe and signing players is not so important. Even the teams near the top will try to improve their squads

Teams near the top have an incentive to improve their squad at this time of season

Teams at bottom similarily


teams who believe they are safe have no such incentive to spend money

Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:28 pm Why do some think we are safe and signing players is not so important. Even the teams near the top will try to improve their squads

We're not safe until we're safe . We need about another 20 points from 21 games .

When people talk about us not signing players in January, it seems to ignore that we brought four players in last winter window, 2 of which (Turns and Sadlier) were pretty important to our promotion. McCart was also on paper a decent signing who fit Wellens style but happened to be quite bad at defending.

I think we'll bring a forward player who's capable of playing all three positions up top, and maybe a full back to address our lack of cover out there, though imagine that'll be a cheaper option.

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:49 pm

Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:28 pm Why do some think we are safe and signing players is not so important. Even the teams near the top will try to improve their squads

Teams near the top have an incentive to improve their squad at this time of season

Teams at bottom similarily


teams who believe they are safe have no such incentive to spend money

Silly to think we are safe. Get a few injuries and suspensions and we could be in trouble with the squad we have

Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:11 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:49 pm

Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:28 pm Why do some think we are safe and signing players is not so important. Even the teams near the top will try to improve their squads

Teams near the top have an incentive to improve their squad at this time of season

Teams at bottom similarily


teams who believe they are safe have no such incentive to spend money

Silly to think we are safe. Get a few injuries and suspensions and we could be in trouble with the squad we have

I do not think Orient are safe and would not agree with people who say they are

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:29 am Arent Colchester league two?

That's the Cowley Brothers impact.

We look slightly safer, than we did before Christmas, but in the past 53 points hasnt been enough, so we need 22 points from 21 games, with some very hard games to come .
We need decent ( league 1 standard) players in the building, even on loan, theyll improve the standard, and we can buy in the summer

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:24 pm We look slightly safer, than we did before Christmas, but in the past 53 points hasnt been enough, so we need 22 points from 21 games, with some very hard games to come .
We need decent ( league 1 standard) players in the building, even on loan, theyll improve the standard, and we can buy in the summer

accepting your saying Orient need 54 points to stay up ( I personally do not think they need that many though)

You say Orient need 22 points from 21 games. That is an average of 1.04 points per game

You also say

We need decent ( league 1 standard) players in the building, even on loan, theyll improve the standard, and we can buy in the summer

Yet with the current bunch of players Orient have so far got 32 points from 25 games . That is an average of 1.28 points per game.

The current players are averaging a far higher average points haul than you say the need to survive.

Some would deduce the current squad is therefore good enough to survive and consists of decent league 1 standard players already in the building

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:07 pm When people talk about us not signing players in January, it seems to ignore that we brought four players in last winter window, 2 of which (Turns and Sadlier) were pretty important to our promotion. McCart was also on paper a decent signing who fit Wellens style but happened to be quite bad at defending.

I think we'll bring a forward player who's capable of playing all three positions up top, and maybe a full back to address our lack of cover out there, though imagine that'll be a cheaper option.

Don't be surprised if a certain striker of "US descent" ends up with us. I know of no rumours, but he's a Ritchie type forward.

LittleMate wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:30 pm Don't be surprised if a certain striker of "US descent" ends up with us. I know of no rumours, but he's a Ritchie type forward.

My QPR supporting golfer friend says their supporters club gossip is that he is on his way to us permanently for a small fee.

Not only is he a RW type, RW has spoken of him in good terms in post match interviews.

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:18 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:24 pm We look slightly safer, than we did before Christmas, but in the past 53 points hasnt been enough, so we need 22 points from 21 games, with some very hard games to come .
We need decent ( league 1 standard) players in the building, even on loan, theyll improve the standard, and we can buy in the summer

accepting your saying Orient need 54 points to stay up ( I personally do not think they need that many though)

You say Orient need 22 points from 21 games. That is an average of 1.04 points per game

You also say

We need decent ( league 1 standard) players in the building, even on loan, theyll improve the standard, and we can buy in the summer

Yet with the current bunch of players Orient have so far got 32 points from 25 games . That is an average of 1.28 points per game.

The current players are averaging a far higher average points haul than you say the need to survive.

Some would deduce the current squad is therefore good enough to survive and consists of decent league 1 standard players already in the building

Trouble is injuries and suspensions kick in and we don’t have the depth

* Sorry about the Colchester City debacle. A horrendous mistake by me.

5 January

Tyreeq Bakinson (Sheffield Wednesday - Charlton) Loan

Charlton loanee, Slobodan Tedić, has returned to his parent club Manchester City.

EliotNes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:59 pm

LittleMate wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:30 pm Don't be surprised if a certain striker of "US descent" ends up with us. I know of no rumours, but he's a Ritchie type forward.

My QPR supporting golfer friend says their supporters club gossip is that he is on his way to us permanently for a small fee.

Not only is he a RW type, RW has spoken of him in good terms in post match interviews.

TBH, Kelman isn't Championship standard . In fact I'm not sure he's even League 1 standard but if Richie wants him that's good enough for me .