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These two were fairly marquee signings that have barely string 10 appearances together between them, what's going on when the solution against Derby is to bring on a CM not far off 40?
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gshaw wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:50 pm These two were fairly marquee signings that have barely string 10 appearances together between them, what's going on when the solution against Derby is to bring on a CM not far off 40?
Probably injured .
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Not only that, but who did the 39 year old CM come on to replace…that’s right, another of our super summer signings. A STRIKER who is absolutely dog sh*t.
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The Reverend wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:52 pm Not only that, but who did the 39 year old CM come on to replace…that’s right, another of our super summer signings. A STRIKER who is absolutely dog sh*t.
I've been saying that for weeks . He did improve a bit but quite frankly he offers nothing . I watched him closely today . He wins nothing in the air , wins nothing on the ground and can't even hold up the ball . Out of our two non scoring strikers I'd rather we kept Drinan .
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:59 pm
The Reverend wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:52 pm Not only that, but who did the 39 year old CM come on to replace…that’s right, another of our super summer signings. A STRIKER who is absolutely dog sh*t.
I've been saying that for weeks . He did improve a bit but quite frankly he offers nothing . I watched him closely today . He wins nothing in the air , wins nothing on the ground and can't even hold up the ball . Out of our two non scoring strikers I'd rather we kept Drinan .
I had actually been one of those defending him for some time. But today was the last straw for me.
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:59 pm
The Reverend wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:52 pm Not only that, but who did the 39 year old CM come on to replace…that’s right, another of our super summer signings. A STRIKER who is absolutely dog sh*t.
I've been saying that for weeks . He did improve a bit but quite frankly he offers nothing . I watched him closely today . He wins nothing in the air , wins nothing on the ground and can't even hold up the ball . Out of our two non scoring strikers I'd rather we kept Drinan .
And that’s saying something
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We do not have any L1 standard strikers
Piggot, Drinan are both L2 standard
Forde is a young kid who is an impact sub but again not L1 standard
We have no attacking threat what so ever.
RW is no mug, he must know this and knows it needs addressing, but the big Q is how and with what?????
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Stan1972 wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:14 pm We do not have any L1 standard strikers
Piggot, Drinan are both L2 standard
Forde is a young kid who is an impact sub but again not L1 standard
We have no attacking threat what so ever.
RW is no mug, he must know this and knows it needs addressing, but the big Q is how and with what?????
I completely agree except Agyei could potentially be league 1 standard . We won't know for sure until he gets fully up to speed .Richie has already said we need new forwards brought in during the January transfer window . I just hope the club has already identified who they want and go for them as soon as the window opens . We need them here ASAP .
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Hear Kelman is nailed on to arrive in January
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I expect it will be Piggot operating as an immobile 10 behind Agyei as the pacy 9 once he’s fully fit. Presumably that was always the plan.
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PKM wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:28 pm Hear Kelman is nailed on to arrive in January
Actually , I'm fully expecting that but we had better also bring in a new winger as well .
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Hoover Attack wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:34 pm I expect it will be Piggot operating as an immobile 10 behind Agyei as the pacy 9 once he’s fully fit. Presumably that was always the plan.
I honestly think Piggot is gone. Time will tell.
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Sanders is shaping up to be the 2023/24 version of Callum Reilly. Never seems to be fit. Galbraith was played totally out of position at wing back for a few games. I thought that he was billed as a creative central midfielder.
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Highwood Man wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:36 am Sanders is shaping up to be the 2023/24 version of Callum Reilly. Never seems to be fit. Galbraith was played totally out of position at wing back for a few games. I thought that he was billed as a creative central midfielder.
Yeah Galbraith was meant to be a younger Moncur CAM role and Sanders the Clay replacement that was supposedly meant to free up El Miz to play further up.
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If Galbraith was any good, Salford would have bought him.
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:52 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:50 pm These two were fairly marquee signings that have barely string 10 appearances together between them, what's going on when the solution against Derby is to bring on a CM not far off 40?
Probably injured .
Galbraith was on the bench yesterday, but where Sanders was - answers on a postcard, - as he started against Chesterfield.
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gshaw wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:03 pm
Highwood Man wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:36 am Sanders is shaping up to be the 2023/24 version of Callum Reilly. Never seems to be fit. Galbraith was played totally out of position at wing back for a few games. I thought that he was billed as a creative central midfielder.
Yeah Galbraith was meant to be a younger Moncur CAM role and Sanders the Clay replacement that was supposedly meant to free up El Miz to play further up.
I'd have Craig Clay back - always good for the first half or the last 20 mins to disrupt opposition attacks and not as prone to missing matches due to injuries as some of the other midfielders we have had in the 6 years he was with us.

I hadn't paid much attention to RW bemoaning the lack of experience at times in the playing eleven, but after seeing the way Pratley and Beckles mixed it with the Derby midfield and forwards after they came on yesterday, which we weren't doing before, I can see his point. Which again makes me think why did we let Clay go - unless we didn't offer him a long enough contract.

Oh for the January window. Let's hope that helps.
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EliotNes wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:44 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:03 pm
Highwood Man wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:36 am Sanders is shaping up to be the 2023/24 version of Callum Reilly. Never seems to be fit. Galbraith was played totally out of position at wing back for a few games. I thought that he was billed as a creative central midfielder.
Yeah Galbraith was meant to be a younger Moncur CAM role and Sanders the Clay replacement that was supposedly meant to free up El Miz to play further up.
I'd have Craig Clay back - always good for the first half or the last 20 mins to disrupt opposition attacks and not as prone to missing matches due to injuries as some of the other midfielders we have had in the 6 years he was with us.

I hadn't paid much attention to RW bemoaning the lack of experience at times in the playing eleven, but after seeing the way Pratley and Beckles mixed it with the Derby midfield and forwards after they came on yesterday, which we weren't doing before, I can see his point. Which again makes me think why did we let Clay go - unless we didn't offer him a long enough contract.

Oh for the January window. Let's hope that helps.
Craig Clay belongs absolutely nowhere near a league 1 squad. Love the guy to bits, but to suggest that he would have been the solution to our current problems is utterly absurd.
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EliotNes wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:44 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:03 pm
Highwood Man wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:36 am Sanders is shaping up to be the 2023/24 version of Callum Reilly. Never seems to be fit. Galbraith was played totally out of position at wing back for a few games. I thought that he was billed as a creative central midfielder.
Yeah Galbraith was meant to be a younger Moncur CAM role and Sanders the Clay replacement that was supposedly meant to free up El Miz to play further up.
I'd have Craig Clay back - always good for the first half or the last 20 mins to disrupt opposition attacks and not as prone to missing matches due to injuries as some of the other midfielders we have had in the 6 years he was with us.

I hadn't paid much attention to RW bemoaning the lack of experience at times in the playing eleven, but after seeing the way Pratley and Beckles mixed it with the Derby midfield and forwards after they came on yesterday, which we weren't doing before, I can see his point. Which again makes me think why did we let Clay go - unless we didn't offer him a long enough contract.

Oh for the January window. Let's hope that helps.
Agreed that the difference when Beckles and Pratley came on was instantly noticeable.

But Clay isn’t L2 standard, never mind L1.
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EliotNes wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:44 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:03 pm
Highwood Man wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:36 am Sanders is shaping up to be the 2023/24 version of Callum Reilly. Never seems to be fit. Galbraith was played totally out of position at wing back for a few games. I thought that he was billed as a creative central midfielder.
Yeah Galbraith was meant to be a younger Moncur CAM role and Sanders the Clay replacement that was supposedly meant to free up El Miz to play further up.
I'd have Craig Clay back - always good for the first half or the last 20 mins to disrupt opposition attacks and not as prone to missing matches due to injuries as some of the other midfielders we have had in the 6 years he was with us.

I hadn't paid much attention to RW bemoaning the lack of experience at times in the playing eleven, but after seeing the way Pratley and Beckles mixed it with the Derby midfield and forwards after they came on yesterday, which we weren't doing before, I can see his point. Which again makes me think why did we let Clay go - unless we didn't offer him a long enough contract.

Oh for the January window. Let's hope that helps.
Clay wouldn't be the answer but an older head / L1 journeyman or two is needed. Not enough proven L1 nous in the squad at present.
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Not sure if anyone has said this before but it’s almost as if we need a bit more experience in our starting XI.
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gshaw wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:42 pm
EliotNes wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:44 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:03 pm

Yeah Galbraith was meant to be a younger Moncur CAM role and Sanders the Clay replacement that was supposedly meant to free up El Miz to play further up.
I'd have Craig Clay back - always good for the first half or the last 20 mins to disrupt opposition attacks and not as prone to missing matches due to injuries as some of the other midfielders we have had in the 6 years he was with us.

I hadn't paid much attention to RW bemoaning the lack of experience at times in the playing eleven, but after seeing the way Pratley and Beckles mixed it with the Derby midfield and forwards after they came on yesterday, which we weren't doing before, I can see his point. Which again makes me think why did we let Clay go - unless we didn't offer him a long enough contract.

Oh for the January window. Let's hope that helps.
Clay wouldn't be the answer but an older head / L1 journeyman or two is needed. Not enough proven L1 nous in the squad at present.
Clay certainly wouldn’t be the answer but if a few others like Pigott, Moncur had his grit and determination we as a team would be better off. Clay always gave 101% effort while not being one of our better players.
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Cheshunto wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:32 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:42 pm
EliotNes wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:44 pm

I'd have Craig Clay back - always good for the first half or the last 20 mins to disrupt opposition attacks and not as prone to missing matches due to injuries as some of the other midfielders we have had in the 6 years he was with us.

I hadn't paid much attention to RW bemoaning the lack of experience at times in the playing eleven, but after seeing the way Pratley and Beckles mixed it with the Derby midfield and forwards after they came on yesterday, which we weren't doing before, I can see his point. Which again makes me think why did we let Clay go - unless we didn't offer him a long enough contract.

Oh for the January window. Let's hope that helps.
Clay wouldn't be the answer but an older head / L1 journeyman or two is needed. Not enough proven L1 nous in the squad at present.
Clay certainly wouldn’t be the answer but if a few others like Pigott, Moncur had his grit and determination we as a team would be better off. Clay always gave 101% effort while not being one of our better players.
Oh yes his commitment and workrate were always top notch. Unfortunately L2 is his limit, this level is another notch up fitness and technical wise
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gshaw wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:40 pm
Cheshunto wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:32 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:42 pm

Clay wouldn't be the answer but an older head / L1 journeyman or two is needed. Not enough proven L1 nous in the squad at present.
Clay certainly wouldn’t be the answer but if a few others like Pigott, Moncur had his grit and determination we as a team would be better off. Clay always gave 101% effort while not being one of our better players.
Oh yes his commitment and workrate were always top notch. Unfortunately L2 is his limit, this level is another notch up fitness and technical wise
Craig Clay was a great servant to the club who walked away with two championship winning medals but he would have struggled massively at League 1 level .
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Cheshunto wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:32 pm Clay certainly wouldn’t be the answer but if a few others like Pigott, Moncur had his grit and determination we as a team would be better off. Clay always gave 101% effort while not being one of our better players.
That in a nutshell is the story of watching Orient for 50 years, it always a compromise. We either have triers with limited talent (Clay), or talented players with less effort (Moncur). If they have talent AND they try, they normally move on to better things.
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