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Posted: **Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:40 pm**

Did alright for Lincoln last night.

Would you have him in the Orient squad ahead of Happe, Turns or Beckles?

Posted: **Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:36 pm**

Omar is injured & wasnt in the squad.

Posted: **Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:49 pm**

Didn't realise it was him until midway through second half and he was up for a corner but getting bossed around by Cooper.

No thanks.

Posted: **Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:03 am**

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:40 pm Did alright for Lincoln last night.

Would you have him in the Orient squad ahead of Happe, Turns or Beckles?

He was lucky he was up against Pigott and Drinan so hardly any goal threat.

Posted: **Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:22 am**

I thought he was decent for us. He was what I would regard as a classic ‘stopper’. Not great on the ball but defensively very good.

I would suggest our current defenders are better and more comfortable on the ball. Cooper way better. Beckles and Turns way better.

Did a job for us but I think his replacements are better.

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:50 pm**

Fee and personal terms agreed apparently so Mitchell will be signing for Charlton Athletic it seems.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/ch ... -mitchell/

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:45 pm**

redintheface wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:50 pm Fee and personal terms agreed apparently so Mitchell will be signing for Charlton Athletic it seems.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/ch ... -mitchell/

Solid signing for them but then so is Simpson for us. CB the only area we've actually got sorted early.

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:22 pm**

Definitely a decent player, but he has never played in the Championship for Millwall and I wouldn`t swap him for any of our defenders. Cooper, Beckles, Happe and Simpson all had better pass success percentage than him last season, but Mitchell won more aerial duels won per game than everyone, apart from but Happe.

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:02 am**

He’s behind all 4 of our centre halves. But good luck to him.

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:33 am**

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:02 am He’s behind all 4 of our centre halves. But good luck to him.

Exactly . I think all four of our CB’s are better than him . I look at our CB position and we’re extremely strong. If the rest of our squad was as strong we’d be promotion contenders

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:45 am**

I agree that the O’s are strong in the CB position with the players we have and fortunately do not need an addition in that area. Personally though I would say that Mitchell might well be an upgrade on at least two - if not three- of our existing quartet.
Hoping that Ling & Co can fortify the areas we do need strengthened in the next couple of weeks.

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:29 am**

redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:45 am I agree that the O’s are strong in the CB position with the players we have and fortunately do not need an addition in that area. Personally though I would say that Mitchell might well be an upgrade on at least two - if not three- of our existing quartet.
Hoping that Ling & Co can fortify the areas we do need strengthened in the next couple of weeks.

Wow. Which ones?

He’s another who just can’t play out from the back.

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:30 am**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:33 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:02 am He’s behind all 4 of our centre halves. But good luck to him.
Exactly . I think all four of our CB’s are better than him . I look at our CB position and we’re extremely strong. If the rest of our squad was as strong we’d be promotion contenders

I think that Richie prefers CBs who are also ‘footballers’ ie comfortable on the ball and able to play a bit.
Mitchell is a decent ‘stopper’ but is a bit limited on the ‘playing ‘ side.
Although I quite like Cooper but he’s also a bit limited with the ball at his feet.

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:40 am**

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:29 am
redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:45 am I agree that the O’s are strong in the CB position with the players we have and fortunately do not need an addition in that area. Personally though I would say that Mitchell might well be an upgrade on at least two - if not three- of our existing quartet.
Hoping that Ling & Co can fortify the areas we do need strengthened in the next couple of weeks.
Wow. Which ones?

Beckles and Cooper in my view. Not seen enough of Simpson to form an opinion.

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:01 pm**

redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:40 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:29 am
redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:45 am I agree that the O’s are strong in the CB position with the players we have and fortunately do not need an addition in that area. Personally though I would say that Mitchell might well be an upgrade on at least two - if not three- of our existing quartet.
Hoping that Ling & Co can fortify the areas we do need strengthened in the next couple of weeks.
Wow. Which ones?

Beckles and Cooper in my view. Not seen enough of Simpson to form an opinion.

Beckles is a decent centre back apart from lacking concentration when he gives the ball away needlessly. When he is on his game, Happe is my favourite centre back.

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:02 pm**

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:01 pm
redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:40 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:29 am

Wow. Which ones?

Beckles and Cooper in my view. Not seen enough of Simpson to form an opinion.
Beckles is a decent centre back apart from lacking concentration when he gives the ball away needlessly. When he is on his game, Happe is my favourite centre back.

I agree with you on both counts Sid .

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:11 pm**

Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:30 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:33 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:02 am He’s behind all 4 of our centre halves. But good luck to him.
Exactly . I think all four of our CB’s are better than him . I look at our CB position and we’re extremely strong. If the rest of our squad was as strong we’d be promotion contenders
I think that Richie prefers CBs who are also ‘footballers’ ie comfortable on the ball and able to play a bit.
Mitchell is a decent ‘stopper’ but is a bit limited on the ‘playing ‘ side.
Although I quite like Cooper but he’s also a bit limited with the ball at his feet.

Agreed on Cooper but he has shown a vast improvement in that aspect of his game.

Presumably they looked at Mitchell whilst on loan and decided he couldn’t become what they wanted, but believe Cooper can.

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:48 pm**

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:11 pm
Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:30 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:33 am

Exactly . I think all four of our CB’s are better than him . I look at our CB position and we’re extremely strong. If the rest of our squad was as strong we’d be promotion contenders
I think that Richie prefers CBs who are also ‘footballers’ ie comfortable on the ball and able to play a bit.
Mitchell is a decent ‘stopper’ but is a bit limited on the ‘playing ‘ side.
Although I quite like Cooper but he’s also a bit limited with the ball at his feet.
Agreed on Cooper but he has shown a vast improvement in that aspect of his game.

Presumably they looked at Mitchell whilst on loan and decided he couldn’t become what they wanted, but believe Cooper can.

Big difference, Mitchell would have cost a lot of money whereas Cooper was I would guess cost just a smallish fee to Swansea. As I recall, ( I could well be wrong ) Mitchell was brought in on loan from Millwall when KJ was manager and was recalled from his loan not long after KJ left

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