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and bat.

Come on Jimmy, do your stuff!

First wicket down. 2-1

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:21 am First wicket down. 2-1

Convicts should have reviewed as it was missing...

... ha ha!

17 - 2.
Broad again.

35 - 3.

Three more convicts back in the pavilion.

8 of them out by teatime. Smith must be crying his eyes out.

The convicts are getting away!

RientO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:49 pm 8 of them out by teatime. Smith must be crying his eyes out.

286 runs to his name later..........

The convicts just ripped you a new one....Thats what happens when you poke the bear too much...

Orientinoz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:34 am The convicts just ripped you a new one....Thats what happens when you poke the bear too much...

Alternatively it's to be expected when you are playing a man short & said man is your main bowler

spen666 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:34 am

Orientinoz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:34 am The convicts just ripped you a new one....Thats what happens when you poke the bear too much...

Alternatively it's to be expected when you are playing a man short & said man is your main bowler

Same for the aussies spen...They still have Starc to come in...

Starc was dropped, he is not injured.

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:24 am Starc was dropped, he is not injured.

And there is a Starc difference between the two.

I'm not saying there isn't, and I'm not necessarily saying that the state of this test thus far would be any different. Only, that the fact of the matter is, we are virtually playing this one with ten men, and minus our top bowler.

I guess I shall have to improve my Starc puns so CCH gets them.

I did get it as it happens lovejoy. Nice one actually I just thought that while we were there I would make my point .

England had the Aussies right where they wanted them at two points in this game- 122/8 and when building a lead in the second innings. Only having a lead of 90 after both of those events is not far short of a disgrace.

I can't help but feel that there is something quite a bit fundamentally wrong with the test team, in complete contrast to the one-day team. I feel we need a really innovative captain that I don't think Root is. Taking so long to move up to 3, Bairstow refusing to bat above 7, the arrogant use of reviews by both bowlers and batsmen and the way in which we seem incapable of not collapsing every other game are worrying signs.

kokomO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:16 pm

RientO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:49 pm 8 of them out by teatime. Smith must be crying his eyes out.

286 runs to his name later..........

I do wonder if the sandpaper goading by the jailer worly cup champs supporters led to a stand of defiance by the talented chief "convict ".

Food for thought ?

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:58 pm England had the Aussies right where they wanted them at two points in this game- 122/8 and when building a lead in the second innings. Only having a lead of 90 after both of those events is not far short of a disgrace.

I can't help but feel that there is something quite a bit fundamentally wrong with the test team, in complete contrast to the one-day team. I feel we need a really innovative captain that I don't think Root is. Taking so long to move up to 3, Bairstow refusing to bat above 7, the arrogant use of reviews by both bowlers and batsmen and the way in which we seem incapable of not collapsing every other game are worrying signs.

Agree. Just about stepping up in the big games. Our spinners took 2 wickets yesterday on a wearing wicket...Lyons has 6 on his own today, that says it all.

1-0 to the wet and dry cheats.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:16 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:58 pm England had the Aussies right where they wanted them at two points in this game- 122/8 and when building a lead in the second innings. Only having a lead of 90 after both of those events is not far short of a disgrace.

I can't help but feel that there is something quite a bit fundamentally wrong with the test team, in complete contrast to the one-day team. I feel we need a really innovative captain that I don't think Root is. Taking so long to move up to 3, Bairstow refusing to bat above 7, the arrogant use of reviews by both bowlers and batsmen and the way in which we seem incapable of not collapsing every other game are worrying signs.

Agree. Just about stepping up in the big games. Our spinners took 2 wickets yesterday on a wearing wicket...Lyons has 6 on his own today, that says it all.

None of our slow bowlers are anywhere near the level Lyon is at and has been at for some time. We are carrying so many players. Who can you say is actually worthy of their place right now? Root, Woakes and Broad and that's pretty much it apart from Stokes who is always worth having around. Bairstow is woefully out of form and not needed as a specialisty keeper with Buttler as well as Foakes who can keep, Burns looks unconvincing- did well for his ton but never looked toally comfortable with a flawed techinque, Roy looks like a caged animal batting with one hand behind his back, Denly is not good enough I'm afraid. I love Moeen Ali but his form in both disciplines is woeful.

That said, I wouldn't panic and make wholesale changes. I'd bring Curran in because he is a fighter, like Stokes, and a quick- Stone or Archer- for Anderson as well as maybe Foakes for any of the underperforming batsmen.

For what it’s worth I’d drop Denly buttler, bairstow and Ali (a walking wicket against Lyon on any surface) and leave out the injured anderson. I wouldn’t change the openers again for lords what’s the point.....this would be my eleven for lords;

Burns
Roy
Root
Malan
Stokes
Foakes (wk)
Woakes
Curran (Sam)
Broad
Archer
Leach

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