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"The EFL Board feels it has been placed in an unenviable position and, regrettably, has opted to take the reluctant decision to suspend Saturday’s opening day fixture between Bury FC and MK Dons."

https://www.efl.com/news/2019/july/efl- ... m=referral

Can`t remember that this has happened before.

Bergen wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:04 pm "The EFL Board feels it has been placed in an unenviable position and, regrettably, has opted to take the reluctant decision to suspend Saturday’s opening day fixture between Bury FC and MK Dons."

https://www.efl.com/news/2019/july/efl- ... m=referral

Can`t remember that this has happened before.

Do MK Dons get the 3 points?

Rough.

Would be laughable if it was so sad. The EFL seem to see no issue with why this has happened, more interested in punishing fans and players than the dodgy owners. Also interested in making sure Wimbledon call MK by their name.

Bury just been promoted as well, it should have been a celebration.

Heart-breaking for Bury fans.

Bolton's opening day game at Wycombe will go ahead. I actually thought their situation was worse.

It's OK, the EFL will sort it.

What do people want the EFL to do that they legally can do

Bergen wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:24 pm Heart-breaking for Bury fans.

Bolton's opening day game at Wycombe will go ahead. I actually thought their situation was worse.

Their debt is a lot bigger, but they’ve got a takeover in the works, unlike Bury.

It’s always sad to see a club struggling, as we know only too well of course under FB. Feel for the fans.

Something awry with the EFL though, it’s just one club after the other, they need to get their act in order on ownership and finances.

Fingers crossed for both Bury and Bolton.

I fear we are starting to see the beginning of lower league Football imploding on itself. If its not corrupt owners, its owners that simply can't afford the rising costs, but try and find the money from somewhere to try and keep the club afloat, until that runs dry and they do a bunk.

I’m sure the EFL will give as much assistance as they gave us in our hour of need.

Why are Bury in this position?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:37 am Why are Bury in this position?

Spent more money than they earned

Lack of due diligence on the part of current owner - unfortunately there was a black hole in the accounts which only came to light after the last takeover.

spen666 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:41 pm What do people want the EFL to do that they legally can do

I think most people would expect them to uphold their own values - protect the image and integrity of The League and its competitions, the well-being of the Clubs, and the interests of all of the stakeholders in those Clubs(taken from the EFL website)

In a broader context it's merely a reflection of society. The big clubs get richer and the not so rich face continual struggle.

I'm a little surprised they didn't lose more of their best players to other clubs .

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:36 pm I'm a little surprised they didn't lose more of their best players to other clubs .

Haven't many of them gone to Plymouth with the manager?

5 players have joined Argyle (League Two) from Bury (League One).

I bet Neville Neville is turning in his grave .

As most fans of Bury know he did a great job with the save our shakers campaign.

I wonder how Gary & Phil feel over at Salford .

EH16 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:23 am

spen666 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:41 pm What do people want the EFL to do that they legally can do

I think most people would expect them to uphold their own values - protect the image and integrity of The League and its competitions, the well-being of the Clubs, and the interests of all of the stakeholders in those Clubs(taken from the EFL website)

Lots of words but no actual answer
.wWhat exactly do you want the EFL to do that they legally can.

The EFL have no power to run or even interfere in running of clubs.

The can make rules and punish clubs for non compliance which is what they do.

The EFL run a competition not run the clubs in the EFL

People have expectations of the EFL they can't legally meet

They could at least uphold their own (fairly useless) Fit and Proper test. In Bury's case they didn't even bother with that.

The game needs an overhaul, the EFL should be disbanded and a regulator with teeth needs to be created. Never happen, obviously.

The madness of the Football League finances vs the Premier League is nothing short of disgusting!
Prem players on weekly wages that would keep these clubs going - completely wrong but cannot see how it will change now

Bergen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:28 pm 5 players have joined Argyle (League Two) from Bury (League One).

OK , I didn't know that . No wonder their the pundits favourites for promotion along with Bradford .

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:31 pm They could at least uphold their own (fairly useless) Fit and Proper test. In Bury's case they didn't even bother with that.

The game needs an overhaul, the EFL should be disbanded and a regulator with teeth needs to be created. Never happen, obviously.

The EFL are not responsible for regulating clubs.

They are responsible for their competition They are not allowed by law to do most of what fans want.
They punish clubs who breach their rules, then fans complain that clubs are punished

spen666 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:24 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:31 pm They could at least uphold their own (fairly useless) Fit and Proper test. In Bury's case they didn't even bother with that.

The game needs an overhaul, the EFL should be disbanded and a regulator with teeth needs to be created. Never happen, obviously.

The EFL are not responsible for regulating clubs.

They are responsible for their competition They are not allowed by law to do most of what fans want.
They punish clubs who breach their rules, then fans complain that clubs are punished

If the EFL are responsible for deciding who plays in their competition they can easily create a set of legal rules that all members have to follow. all clubs submit a bond to the EFL, clubs cannot have a chairman with a judgement against them, clubs cannot have a chairman who have been declared bankrupt, etc. Any club as an independent business doesn't have to follow these, but if you want to be a member of the EFL, and as such play in the EFL you have to abide by them