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Not sure if this has been done - cant see it anywhere, so

After the comings and goings of pre-season and our friendlies to date, where will we finish?

I think better than many believe.

My best guess is 3-9th.

Sort of depend of the quality of additions in the next week. I've gone for Mid-table mediocrity (which ill be happy with). however, failure to bring in a decent midfielder, a pacey winger and a decent 3rd striker over the next week (ill settle for a midfielder in Jan if needs be), I think we'll really struggle, unless we get very lucky with injuries.

13th.

IMO it'll be quite similar to the first year in National League.

Do quite well early on, with the team running on adrenalin from various sources.
End up going on a poor run and sliding towards the relegation zone.
New manager comes in, signs a few players.
End up mid-table but in the lower half.

In a way I don't think much is important apart from not getting relegated. I do think next summer will be a big rebuilding project. Out of the first team squad I think there are a good 10 or 11 players who might not be around in a year, either sold, retired or released such as Brill, Ling, Gorman, Ekpiteta, Coulson, McAnuff, Dayton, Happe, Brophy, Harrold, Alabi.

If JMD does well I think he is the type of player that might get a lot of interest, and I think if there was bids of £1m he would go as well.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:58 am Sort of depend of the quality of additions in the next week. I've gone for Mid-table mediocrity (which ill be happy with). however, failure to bring in a decent midfielder, a pacey winger and a decent 3rd striker over the next week (ill settle for a midfielder in Jan if needs be), I think we'll really struggle, unless we get very lucky with injuries.

This is what I also believe . IMO, our squad still isn't quite strong enough so these next couple of signings could make all the difference . At worse I think we'll finish in the high teens, 17th to 19th . TBH, I would be happy enough with that because I'm hoping for at least a season of consolidation . Anything higher then that would be a bonus .

10th. The division is pretty poor in all honesty.

Impossible to tell. Hopefully Ross does well and implements own ideas and isn’t just a proxy for JE.

Ask again in November!

I think we will finish between 1st and 24th

According to today's Guardian, I presume mid-table given they didn't even bother to mention us. Fine by me, takes the pressure off Ross.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... 20-preview

I think we'll be surprised by the step up to L2 and lack of depth will bite unless a few rabbits come out the hat signing wise. Typical Orient 19th place finish, I just hope it's a comfortable one where we can play youth at the end of the season rather than nervously looking over our shoulders.

10th and I’ll be happy with that.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:58 am Sort of depend of the quality of additions in the next week. I've gone for Mid-table mediocrity (which ill be happy with). however, failure to bring in a decent midfielder, a pacey winger and a decent 3rd striker over the next week (ill settle for a midfielder in Jan if needs be), I think we'll really struggle, unless we get very lucky with injuries.

100% in agreement

Is there really much difference in quality between National League and League 2? When you look at last season, Macclesfield struggled and Tranmere got promoted, what does that tell us?

Also will the death of Justin Edinburgh have a galvanising effect on the team wishing to do it for him, or will it have a negative effect and be too much for the players to cope with?

Perhaps it would be better to have this kind of question at Christmas time when we will know what we are talking about.

bobo66 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:06 pm Is there really much difference in quality between National League and League 2? When you look at last season, Macclesfield struggled and Tranmere got promoted, what does that tell us?

Also will the death of Justin Edinburgh have a galvanising effect on the team wishing to do it for him, or will it have a negative effect and be too much for the players to cope with?

Perhaps it would be better to have this kind of question at Christmas time when we will know what we are talking about.

Or just have another poll around then to see how our thoughts differed before the season and just over halfway through.

The start is key for a number of reasons:
- we have a relatively easy start. I’d expect Cheltenham, Crawley and Macclesfield to be fighting off relegation and we play them in the first month.
- if we get off to a bad start then Ross and the team are immediately under pressure.
- thoughts of Justin start affecting the squad negativity rather than potentially galvanising them if we were to start strong.
- pressure on the board.

We shall see

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:35 pm The start is key for a number of reasons:
- we have a relatively easy start. I’d expect Cheltenham, Crawley and Macclesfield to be fighting off relegation and we play them in the first month.
- if we get off to a bad start then Ross and the team are immediately under pressure.
- thoughts of Justin start affecting the squad negativity rather than potentially galvanising them if we were to start strong.
- pressure on the board.

We shall see

When’s it ever been easy against Crawley?

P 10 W 3 D 0 L 7

Yeah true dat

Mid Table...anything better is a bonus.

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:16 pm I think we'll be surprised by the step up to L2 and lack of depth will bite unless a few rabbits come out the hat signing wise. Typical Orient 19th place finish, I just hope it's a comfortable one where we can play youth at the end of the season rather than nervously looking over our shoulders.

Typical Orient 19th place - not sure how that's typical. 19th place finish in 2003-04 but a league above. Couple of 19th places in Div 2 in the mid 60's and a few in Div3 (south) going back to the 40's . Still, lets not get carried away with facts .

Cheltenham W 6 D 5 L 10
Macclesfield W 6 D 3 L 7

bobo66 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:06 pm Is there really much difference in quality between National League and League 2? When you look at last season, Macclesfield struggled and Tranmere got promoted, what does that tell us?

Also will the death of Justin Edinburgh have a galvanising effect on the team wishing to do it for him, or will it have a negative effect and be too much for the players to cope with?

Perhaps it would be better to have this kind of question at Christmas time when we will know what we are talking about.

Fair point. Ask again after the first 45 matches when we will all be a little clearer.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:37 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:35 pm The start is key for a number of reasons:
- we have a relatively easy start. I’d expect Cheltenham, Crawley and Macclesfield to be fighting off relegation and we play them in the first month.
- if we get off to a bad start then Ross and the team are immediately under pressure.
- thoughts of Justin start affecting the squad negativity rather than potentially galvanising them if we were to start strong.
- pressure on the board.

We shall see

When’s it ever been easy against Crawley?

P 10 W 3 D 0 L 7

I think if I’m correct against Crawley
P6
W1
D0
L5

I think we'll challenge for the playoffs, so i'll go all pre-season optimistic and say well make it.

MrB wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:04 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:37 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:35 pm The start is key for a number of reasons:
- we have a relatively easy start. I’d expect Cheltenham, Crawley and Macclesfield to be fighting off relegation and we play them in the first month.
- if we get off to a bad start then Ross and the team are immediately under pressure.
- thoughts of Justin start affecting the squad negativity rather than potentially galvanising them if we were to start strong.
- pressure on the board.

We shall see

When’s it ever been easy against Crawley?

P 10 W 3 D 0 L 7

I think if I’m correct against Crawley
P6
W1
D0
L5

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