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What actually is " one of our own"?

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The phrase 'one of our own', is banded about a lot, and i get the impression it means slightly different things to different people.
To me, 'one of our own' means a youngster, that came to the club as a 16 year old, played for youth/acadamy teams here for two years, then signed a first ever pro contract, with Orient. Upon signing that contract, he becomes 'one of our own'
What do others understand the term to mean?
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Re: What actually is " one of our own"?

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ComeOnYouOs wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:39 am The phrase 'one of our own', is banded about a lot, and i get the impression it means slightly different things to different people.
To me, 'one of our own' means a youngster, that came to the club as a 16 year old, played for youth/acadamy teams here for two years, then signed a first ever pro contract, with Orient. Upon signing that contract, he becomes 'one of our own'
What do others understand the term to mean?
Agree with your definition of '' 'one of our own'' !
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Re: What actually is " one of our own"?

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ComeOnYouOs wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:39 am The phrase 'one of our own', is banded about a lot, and i get the impression it means slightly different things to different people.
To me, 'one of our own' means a youngster, that came to the club as a 16 year old, played for youth/acadamy teams here for two years, then signed a first ever pro contract, with Orient. Upon signing that contract, he becomes 'one of our own'
What do others understand the term to mean?
Coming to us at 16 likely means they were somewhere else 1st & werent good enough. Jaydon Sweeney was here way before 16
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Re: What actually is " one of our own"?

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Definitely through the youth system. Unless its a bloke from somewhere else that has been at the club for years and loves it, then its acceptable to crown them one of our own
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The club's marketing phrase of choice to try and get people interested in the academy
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Very negative G
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:12 pm Very negative G
It is exactly how they use it though I think that sponsorship programme has now ceased as it didn't get much engagement (see second response beneath this one)

A signed Nkrumah keepsake has aged like milk though lol

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Definition? In time, I’ll come up with one of my own.
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:49 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:39 am The phrase 'one of our own', is banded about a lot, and i get the impression it means slightly different things to different people.
To me, 'one of our own' means a youngster, that came to the club as a 16 year old, played for youth/acadamy teams here for two years, then signed a first ever pro contract, with Orient. Upon signing that contract, he becomes 'one of our own'
What do others understand the term to mean?
Coming to us at 16 likely means they were somewhere else 1st & werent good enough. Jaydon Sweeney was here way before 16
Many young players have been at a few clubs before they finally settle down to the one side.
Glenn Roeder and Laurie Cunningham where both on Arsenals books when young, then moved on to the Os after being released by the gunners.
I would class both Glenn and Laurie as 'one of our own'' !
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Re: What actually is " one of our own"?

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Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:58 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:49 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:39 am The phrase 'one of our own', is banded about a lot, and i get the impression it means slightly different things to different people.
To me, 'one of our own' means a youngster, that came to the club as a 16 year old, played for youth/acadamy teams here for two years, then signed a first ever pro contract, with Orient. Upon signing that contract, he becomes 'one of our own'
What do others understand the term to mean?
Coming to us at 16 likely means they were somewhere else 1st & werent good enough. Jaydon Sweeney was here way before 16
Many young players have been at a few clubs before they finally settle down to the one side.
Glenn Roeder and Laurie Cunningham where both on Arsenals books when young, then moved on to the Os after being released by the gunners.
I would class both Glenn and Laurie as 'one of our own'' !
Long time before academy football Sid. Old style schoolboyy forrms were exactly that . Apprentices were 16 -18 y.o & we had LC & Glenn then. So they were our own .
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Re: What actually is " one of our own"?

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gshaw wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:01 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:12 pm Very negative G
It is exactly how they use it though I think that sponsorship programme has now ceased as it didn't get much engagement (see second response beneath this one)

A signed Nkrumah keepsake has aged like milk though lol

A 2 Year old tweet of a player we have made money on , whats your point ?
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tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:31 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:58 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:49 am

Coming to us at 16 likely means they were somewhere else 1st & werent good enough. Jaydon Sweeney was here way before 16
Many young players have been at a few clubs before they finally settle down to the one side.
Glenn Roeder and Laurie Cunningham where both on Arsenals books when young, then moved on to the Os after being released by the gunners.
I would class both Glenn and Laurie as 'one of our own'' !
Long time before academy football Sid. Old style schoolboyy forrms were exactly that . Apprentices were 16 -18 y.o & we had LC & Glenn then. So they were our own .
Speaking for myself, I think that for all intents and purposes a kid of 16 who joins us and progresses through the ranks of the youth teams/ academy whatever can be regarded as one of our own, its just in the spirit of things and not worth arguing about.
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Think it's a bit of both. If it's not a kid whose come through the youth system then it has be a player whose been at the club for a while like Coxy.
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Re: What actually is " one of our own"?

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Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:17 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:31 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:58 am

Many young players have been at a few clubs before they finally settle down to the one side.
Glenn Roeder and Laurie Cunningham where both on Arsenals books when young, then moved on to the Os after being released by the gunners.
I would class both Glenn and Laurie as 'one of our own'' !
Long time before academy football Sid. Old style schoolboyy forrms were exactly that . Apprentices were 16 -18 y.o & we had LC & Glenn then. So they were our own .
Speaking for myself, I think that for all intents and purposes a kid of 16 who joins us and progresses through the ranks of the youth teams/ academy whatever can be regarded as one of our own, its just in the spirit of things and not worth arguing about.
We arent arguing Sid ,Both are correct & are why academies get kids as young as 9. Some get found late &maybe 16 or 17 .
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JimbO wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:28 pm Think it's a bit of both. If it's not a kid whose come through the youth system then it has be a player whose been at the club for a while like Coxy.
Well Coxy was certainly Leyton Orient through and through, the fans loved him and thus adopted him as ''One of our own'' !
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tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:33 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:01 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:12 pm Very negative G
It is exactly how they use it though I think that sponsorship programme has now ceased as it didn't get much engagement (see second response beneath this one)

A signed Nkrumah keepsake has aged like milk though lol

A 2 Year old tweet of a player we have made money on , whats your point ?
A real Orient legend who will be fondly remembered for all his first team appearances :roll:
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I could be wrong here, but I thought it also applied to players who grew up locally to the club in question.
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Dennis Rofe, John Chiedozie and Tommy Taylor ...
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oxo wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:03 pm I could be wrong here, but I thought it also applied to players who grew up locally to the club in question.
Like many clubs of years ago when many teams had so many players who were local lads who got into the first team via the youth teans then reserve teams. Good example of that was West Ham in the era where they provided 3 players for the 1966 England world cup winning team.
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