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Yep sorry add to the listChicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 11:18 am Don"t forget the late, great Peter Allen, he was a true legend.
Martin Ling brought him in at the eleventh hour about only three weeks before the national league season started . Carried our midfield virtually single handedly during our National League seasons and won two league winners medals . You have to say Craig has been an excellent signing for us .Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:44 am Proved to be a good signing, i think ling said at the time he'd be one of the best.
Many more can be added to that list, for just a start Sid Bishop, Dennis Rofe, Stan Charlton and many more that I and others could add !Stan1972 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 11:07 am Craig Clay
Good player, great servant, hope he finds a good club and has a couple of good seasons in L2, as he deserves a good club.
But legend he is not.
For me Kevin Hales & Steve Castle in CM were the best midfield pairing I have seen.
Steve Castle is what you call an Orient great in that position, along with, Jobi, Bart Williams, Thornton, Bogie.
But the word legend is for players like:
Cunningham
Johnston
Kitchen
Comfort
Lockwood
Cox
Jackson Bishop Mcfadden Jonas & Scott are way above the bottom 3 of your list .Stan1972 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 11:07 am Craig Clay
Good player, great servant, hope he finds a good club and has a couple of good seasons in L2, as he deserves a good club.
But legend he is not.
For me Kevin Hales & Steve Castle in CM were the best midfield pairing I have seen.
Steve Castle is what you call an Orient great in that position, along with, Jobi, Bart Williams, Thornton, Bogie.
But the word legend is for players like:
Cunningham
Johnston
Kitchen
Comfort
Lockwood
Cox
John Jackson, yes without a doubt !tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 2:44 pmJackson Bishop Mcfadden Jonas & Scott are way above the bottom 3 of your list .Stan1972 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 11:07 am Craig Clay
Good player, great servant, hope he finds a good club and has a couple of good seasons in L2, as he deserves a good club.
But legend he is not.
For me Kevin Hales & Steve Castle in CM were the best midfield pairing I have seen.
Steve Castle is what you call an Orient great in that position, along with, Jobi, Bart Williams, Thornton, Bogie.
But the word legend is for players like:
Cunningham
Johnston
Kitchen
Comfort
Lockwood
Cox
How many legends have won 2 league titles for us ???
Yes, without hesitation. He's an excellent squad member and ideal to come on at 70 mins to shut the opposition midfield out. Plus he can play (and has played for the Os) in midfield, as CB and FB. He'll always give 100% and is a good influence in the dressing room. This is a type of player a manager will keep even after promotion. Wellens will want to keep him. IMO he'll be offered another 2-year contract and will take it. Well done Craig.
Don’t agree with that at all. We have already offered an approaching 39 Darren Pratley a contract which I think has sentimental bias. Clay can’t play in league one unless we are planning on being in the bottom 5 or 6. You have to let players go or you are not moving forwards.EliotNes wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 7:38 pmYes, without hesitation. He's an excellent squad member and ideal to come on at 70 mins to shut the opposition midfield out. Plus he can play (and has played for the Os) in midfield, as CB and FB. He'll always give 100% and is a good influence in the dressing room. This is a type of player a manager will keep even after promotion. Wellens will want to keep him. IMO he'll be offered another 2-year contract and will take it. Well done Craig.
COYOs
This - with budget as it is each signing needs to count, you could keep Pratley for a year for his higher level experience but not Clay as well. Only a bit part player this year in L2 and wouldn't be good for either party if he plays barely a handful of games next season.Beradogs wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 8:27 pmDon’t agree with that at all. We have already offered an approaching 39 Darren Pratley a contract which I think has sentimental bias. Clay can’t play in league one unless we are planning on being in the bottom 5 or 6. You have to let players go or you are not moving forwards.EliotNes wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 7:38 pmYes, without hesitation. He's an excellent squad member and ideal to come on at 70 mins to shut the opposition midfield out. Plus he can play (and has played for the Os) in midfield, as CB and FB. He'll always give 100% and is a good influence in the dressing room. This is a type of player a manager will keep even after promotion. Wellens will want to keep him. IMO he'll be offered another 2-year contract and will take it. Well done Craig.
COYOs
No-one is denigrating his contribution. However, you need to understand what ‘legend’ means. It does not relate to Craig Clay in any way.O my gawd wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:33 pmHow many legends have won 2 league titles for us ???
I can't think of any other than Dan Happe. For that they deserve legend status in playing a big part in getting us back to L1.