Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:29 am Lings my main go to scapegoat this year. Although reckon the GK position has a lot of potential.

Buckingham wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:39 am This idea that Alabi has been unfairly castigated as a "scapegoat" really is bizarre.

The facts:

Was bought in as a first choice striker last summer, ended the season as 5th choice
Scored 2 goals, all season, in the conference
Justin (RIP) stuck him on the transfer list as he obviously didn't rate him
Anybody who has seen him play and has half a brain knows that he's nowhere near League 2 standard
The bloke runs around like a headless chicken
Contrary to popular opinion he isn't even that strong. I've seen him get rolled a few times.

All evidence points to the fact that the guy simply isn't good enough for League 2. The belief that he'll suddenly start banging in goals is delusional and goes against all logic.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:35 am A bad player is a bad player, it doesn't matter if they are wearing a new kit or not.

Buckingham wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:39 am This idea that Alabi has been unfairly castigated as a "scapegoat" really is bizarre.

The facts:

Was bought in as a first choice striker last summer, ended the season as 5th choice
Scored 2 goals, all season, in the conference
Justin (RIP) stuck him on the transfer list as he obviously didn't rate him
Anybody who has seen him play and has half a brain knows that he's nowhere near League 2 standard
The bloke runs around like a headless chicken
Contrary to popular opinion he isn't even that strong. I've seen him get rolled a few times.

All evidence points to the fact that the guy simply isn't good enough for League 2. The belief that he'll suddenly start banging in goals is delusional and goes against all logic.

Buckingham wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:39 am This idea that Alabi has been unfairly castigated as a "scapegoat" really is bizarre.

The facts:

Was bought in as a first choice striker last summer, ended the season as 5th choice
Scored 2 goals, all season, in the conference
Justin (RIP) stuck him on the transfer list as he obviously didn't rate him
Anybody who has seen him play and has half a brain knows that he's nowhere near League 2 standard
The bloke runs around like a headless chicken
Contrary to popular opinion he isn't even that strong. I've seen him get rolled a few times.

All evidence points to the fact that the guy simply isn't good enough for League 2. The belief that he'll suddenly start banging in goals is delusional and goes against all logic.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:32 am To even ask who the scapegoat might be is very embarrassing for you all

I wonder how many of you are/was not very good in your workplace but still got a salary for it

It’s like your wanting players to fail so you can justify your virtual bollox

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:32 am To even ask who the scapegoat might be is very embarrassing for you all

I wonder how many of you are/was not very good in your workplace but still got a salary for it

It’s like your wanting players to fail so you can justify your virtual bollox

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:51 am

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:32 am To even ask who the scapegoat might be is very embarrassing for you all

I wonder how many of you are/was not very good in your workplace but still got a salary for it

It’s like your wanting players to fail so you can justify your virtual bollox

Ah a classic apologist. My work is full of them meaning people who are awful at their job, get away with being awful because no one wants to call it out or hold them to account.

Buckingham wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:55 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:51 am

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:32 am To even ask who the scapegoat might be is very embarrassing for you all

I wonder how many of you are/was not very good in your workplace but still got a salary for it

It’s like your wanting players to fail so you can justify your virtual bollox

Ah a classic apologist. My work is full of them meaning people who are awful at their job, get away with being awful because no one wants to call it out or hold them to account.

I’m not awful at my job, but I certainly do go through periods where I’m purposely lazy. Usually if I know I can get away with it.

Instead of being proactive and productive, I scrap through with the bare minimum and waste time doing things like posting on a Leyton Orient message board from my phone.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:56 am

Buckingham wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:55 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:51 am

Ah a classic apologist. My work is full of them meaning people who are awful at their job, get away with being awful because no one wants to call it out or hold them to account.

I’m not awful at my job, but I certainly do go through periods where I’m purposely lazy. Usually if I know I can get away with it.

Instead of being proactive and productive, I scrap through with the bare minimum and waste time doing things like posting on a Leyton Orient message board from my phone.

Wonder is Alabi posts on here from the bench during a game?

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:04 am In terms of scapegoats, I can see Alabi making a handful of sub appearances, the realisation dawning on everyone that he's still not good enough to be a footballer, and then being left out altogether. So he will escape any scapegoating.

I can see Ling getting some when he's picked ahead of Judd for God knows what reason and despite mediocre performance after mediocre performance, retaining his spot. All capped off by Ling picking up an injury, Judd coming in and playing really well, then getting bombed out when Ling is half fit.

Wright is a potential - I know he comes with Bechetti baggage, I know he's from a bloody awful family - but I reckon he's going to do the business for us and avoid any abuse.

I have a horrible feeling Coulson may make it onto the list too - there's bit of a jump up, he's a year older, he'll have even less protection ahead of him than he did last season with no Jobi, I can see him struggling a bit. If we go to a 4-4-2 and Happe isn't playing, don't be surprised if he cops some flak.

Buckingham wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:58 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:56 am

Buckingham wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:55 am

I’m not awful at my job, but I certainly do go through periods where I’m purposely lazy. Usually if I know I can get away with it.

Instead of being proactive and productive, I scrap through with the bare minimum and waste time doing things like posting on a Leyton Orient message board from my phone.

Wonder is Alabi posts on here from the bench during a game?

If it’s anything like his performances on the pitch he’ll miss the target and end up posting comments on a Wycombe Wanderers message board by mistake.

Mikero wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:56 am Other clubs are spending loads of money buying in mediocre players so that their fans have someone to moan about, surely it is worth running up debts to do this. We have not got enough sicknotes. There could be a major crisis if James Alabi starts banging them in, who is going to be scapegoat of the season then?

Mikero