Our form since Christmas

[Highwood Man]

Played 16
Won 5
Drawn 8
Lost 3
Goals for 14
Goals against 13
Points 23

That sort of form would give us 66 points over an entire season and would have resulted in us finishing 12th last season. There have been only 4 games over that period where we have scored more than one and none where we have scored more than two. We have failed to score in 6.

[Bergen]

Interesting stats, but pretty much the same as Forest Green Rovers had last season. They only won 4 out their last 16 games and they had 72 pts. after 37 league games.

[PKM]

We’ve massively gone off the boil, but then we were never going to maintain that early season form.
Injuries, loss of form, absence of a goal scoring forward have all played their part.
Hopefully RW can galvanise the troops for the run in and stop making dopey substitutions. With Smyth back to form and hopefully Theo back soon we can complete the job.

[EastDerehamO]

Its true that our form has dropped since Christmas ,and as said above injuries have played their part in that, as well as a spate of needless red cards.

We’ve stabilised since the New Year wobble, and the form quoted will be more than enough to get us automatic and probably top spot.

We all know there will need to be some changes in the summer to prepare for L1, a goalscorer top of the shopping list I’d think, and El Miz unlikely to be here next season, plus we need some key players to sign new contracts too. I would hope we’re already on all that in preparation.

[spen666]

And despite this, on the only statistics that matter, Orient are 5 points clear of nearest rivals and have a game in hand on them

Or

[lordgriff]

We continue with the same form for the remainder of the season, and we will finish on 86/87 points which I would settle for....could possibly win the league with 87 points I fancy.

[Stowaway]

I just find it incredible that we’re still top, after all the f***-ups we’ve managed. We’ve been top of the division for all but what, 10 days of the season, despite having two strikers that have got 6 goals between them. We’ve been relying on the chasing pack f*cking it up more than we have, and incredibly it’s paid off so far. But our luck has to run out sooner or later. Out run-in is the hardest of all of the rest - in our 9 remaining games, we play everyone below the top three down to 8th place. Given our current form, It’s going to be incredibly hard to keep a top theee place.

A few weeks back I was planning on the Sutton game as being the one where we would be mathematically assured of
promotion. Now I’m thinking it’ll be the Bradford game.

[Cheshunto]

And despite this, on the only statistics that matter, Orient are 5 points clear of nearest rivals and have a game in hand on them

Or

Yes, we’re still in a great position and luckily two of our main rivals, Carlisle and Stevenage lost.
However Hartlepool were poor for 70 mins and apart from Paul Smyth we looked toothless, as we did in the 1st half v Colchester until Moncur converted the penalty.
We’re not creating many chances and RW needs to try and put this right. Our defence was excellent earlier in the season but we can’t keep relying on keeping clean sheets.

[spen666]

And despite this, on the only statistics that matter, Orient are 5 points clear of nearest rivals and have a game in hand on them

Or

Yes, we’re still in a great position and luckily two of our main rivals, Carlisle and Stevenage lost.
However Hartlepool were poor for 70 mins and apart from Paul Smyth we looked toothless, as we did in the 1st half v Colchester until Moncur converted the penalty.
We’re not creating many chances and RW needs to try and put this right. Our defence was excellent earlier in the season but we can’t keep relying on keeping clean sheets.

League Table position would suggest RW is getting it right.

[ComeOnYouOs]

And despite this, on the only statistics that matter, Orient are 5 points clear of nearest rivals and have a game in hand on them

Or

Yes, we’re still in a great position and luckily two of our main rivals, Carlisle and Stevenage lost.
However Hartlepool were poor for 70 mins and apart from Paul Smyth we looked toothless, as we did in the 1st half v Colchester until Moncur converted the penalty.
We’re not creating many chances and RW needs to try and put this right. Our defence was excellent earlier in the season but we can’t keep relying on keeping clean sheets.

League Table position would suggest RW is getting it right.

Theres more to it than a quick glib sentence.
We were never as good as the league position suggested. We had a lot of luck in games earlier this season, where we just scraped a win in equal games, such as Mansfield, Carlisle & Stockport, and of course while we were shading those games, our rivals were taking points off each other.
The Juries out on Wellens as far as im concerned now

[Max Fowler]

Played 16
Won 5
Drawn 8
Lost 3
Goals for 14
Goals against 13
Points 23

That sort of form would give us 66 points over an entire season and would have resulted in us finishing 12th last season. There have been only 4 games over that period where we have scored more than one and none where we have scored more than two. We have failed to score in 6.

What's most amazing is that, despite a disastrous January and March, we've still only lost 3 games out of 16. That says a lot.

[Cheshunto]

And despite this, on the only statistics that matter, Orient are 5 points clear of nearest rivals and have a game in hand on them

Or

Yes, we’re still in a great position and luckily two of our main rivals, Carlisle and Stevenage lost.
However Hartlepool were poor for 70 mins and apart from Paul Smyth we looked toothless, as we did in the 1st half v Colchester until Moncur converted the penalty.
We’re not creating many chances and RW needs to try and put this right. Our defence was excellent earlier in the season but we can’t keep relying on keeping clean sheets.

League Table position would suggest RW is getting it right.

Overall of course RW is getting it right, I wouldn’t swap him for any other Manager, but we aren’t creating many chances and if Smyth and Theo are missing then we struggle. Look at Saturday, without Smyth we looked as though we would never score.
The previous week was much the same……….it’s our defence that has got us top not our goal scoring.

[Max Fowler]

Yes, we’re still in a great position and luckily two of our main rivals, Carlisle and Stevenage lost.
However Hartlepool were poor for 70 mins and apart from Paul Smyth we looked toothless, as we did in the 1st half v Colchester until Moncur converted the penalty.
We’re not creating many chances and RW needs to try and put this right. Our defence was excellent earlier in the season but we can’t keep relying on keeping clean sheets.

League Table position would suggest RW is getting it right.

Theres more to it than a quick glib sentence.
We were never as good as the league position suggested. We had a lot of luck in games earlier this season, where we just scraped a win in equal games, such as Mansfield, Carlisle & Stockport, and of course while we were shading those games, our rivals were taking points off each other.
The Juries out on Wellens as far as im concerned now

We 'scraped' wins based on a watertight defence in Vigaro, Beckles, Happe and El Miz, keeping clean sheet after clean sheet. So yeah, we were better than other teams and deserved those victories.

We haven't been able to replace Happe and restore that solidity - Turns and McCart are just not up to it, Thompson and Ogie just haven't been given the chance.

[spen666]

Yes, we’re still in a great position and luckily two of our main rivals, Carlisle and Stevenage lost.
However Hartlepool were poor for 70 mins and apart from Paul Smyth we looked toothless, as we did in the 1st half v Colchester until Moncur converted the penalty.
We’re not creating many chances and RW needs to try and put this right. Our defence was excellent earlier in the season but we can’t keep relying on keeping clean sheets.

League Table position would suggest RW is getting it right.

Theres more to it than a quick glib sentence.
We were never as good as the league position suggested. We had a lot of luck in games earlier this season, where we just scraped a win in equal games, such as Mansfield, Carlisle & Stockport, and of course while we were shading those games, our rivals were taking points off each other.
The Juries out on Wellens as far as im concerned now

So despite you dismissing the team at start of season, they are still top of the table now as we are well inside the final stretch of the season. Not sure any other manager of Orient has had the team top of the table for so many games

[spen666]

Yes, we’re still in a great position and luckily two of our main rivals, Carlisle and Stevenage lost.
However Hartlepool were poor for 70 mins and apart from Paul Smyth we looked toothless, as we did in the 1st half v Colchester until Moncur converted the penalty.
We’re not creating many chances and RW needs to try and put this right. Our defence was excellent earlier in the season but we can’t keep relying on keeping clean sheets.

League Table position would suggest RW is getting it right.

Overall of course RW is getting it right, I wouldn’t swap him for any other Manager, but we aren’t creating many chances and if Smyth and Theo are missing then we struggle. Look at Saturday, without Smyth we looked as though we would never score.
The previous week was much the same……….it’s our defence that has got us top not our goal scoring.

There is nothing wrong with winning titles based on a strong defence and scoring few goals- just more than the opposition is all that is needed. You get 3 points for winning 1-0. You only get 3 points for winning 5-4 as well.


George Graham won plenty at Arsenal with a tight defence and scoring few goals.

Kevin Keegan won nothing at Newcastle with a side that scored for fun.

[bobo66]

Interesting stats, but pretty much the same as Forest Green Rovers had last season. They only won 4 out their last 16 games and they had 72 pts. after 37 league games.

And look where they are now!

[Chelmsford Swimmer]

Interesting stats, but pretty much the same as Forest Green Rovers had last season. They only won 4 out their last 16 games and they had 72 pts. after 37 league games.

And look where they are now!

Forest Green finished top last season because they had the best players, regardless of their form after Christmas. The reason they have struggled this season is simply because they lost their manager and sold all their good players.

[Chief crazy horse]

Yes, we’re still in a great position and luckily two of our main rivals, Carlisle and Stevenage lost.
However Hartlepool were poor for 70 mins and apart from Paul Smyth we looked toothless, as we did in the 1st half v Colchester until Moncur converted the penalty.
We’re not creating many chances and RW needs to try and put this right. Our defence was excellent earlier in the season but we can’t keep relying on keeping clean sheets.

League Table position would suggest RW is getting it right.

Theres more to it than a quick glib sentence.
We were never as good as the league position suggested. We had a lot of luck in games earlier this season, where we just scraped a win in equal games, such as Mansfield, Carlisle & Stockport, and of course while we were shading those games, our rivals were taking points off each other.
The Juries out on Wellens as far as im concerned now

Correct. Can't see anything wrong with that summing up.
It was of course our rock solid defence that has got us where we are today.

[The Reverend]

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[Chelmsford Swimmer]

And look where they are now!

Forest Green finished top last season because they had the best players, regardless of their form after Christmas. The reason they have struggled this season is simply because they lost their manager and sold all their good players.

They also had a pair of strikers who banged in 42 goals between them last season. Can’t see Drinan or Kelman getting anywhere near that.

Well those strikers are at Walsall now, not seen them zooming up the table. Leading scorer last year Dom Telford not done Crawley a lot of good. There's more to winning football matches than just signing strikers.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

League Table position would suggest RW is getting it right.

Theres more to it than a quick glib sentence.
We were never as good as the league position suggested. We had a lot of luck in games earlier this season, where we just scraped a win in equal games, such as Mansfield, Carlisle & Stockport, and of course while we were shading those games, our rivals were taking points off each other.
The Juries out on Wellens as far as im concerned now

Correct. Can't see anything wrong with that summing up.
It was of course our rock solid defence that has got us where we are today.

This doesn’t make any sense.

Our rock solid defence meant we were as good as our league position showed.

[Mistadobalina]

Yes, we’re still in a great position and luckily two of our main rivals, Carlisle and Stevenage lost.
However Hartlepool were poor for 70 mins and apart from Paul Smyth we looked toothless, as we did in the 1st half v Colchester until Moncur converted the penalty.
We’re not creating many chances and RW needs to try and put this right. Our defence was excellent earlier in the season but we can’t keep relying on keeping clean sheets.

League Table position would suggest RW is getting it right.

The Juries out on Wellens as far as im concerned now

Contender for the worst footballing take seen on this board.

[Chief crazy horse]

Theres more to it than a quick glib sentence.
We were never as good as the league position suggested. We had a lot of luck in games earlier this season, where we just scraped a win in equal games, such as Mansfield, Carlisle & Stockport, and of course while we were shading those games, our rivals were taking points off each other.
The Juries out on Wellens as far as im concerned now

Correct. Can't see anything wrong with that summing up.
It was of course our rock solid defence that has got us where we are today.

This doesn’t make any sense.

Our rock solid defence meant we were as good as our league position showed.

Yes, that's right - because of our rock solid defence.

[Lifelongfan]

Yes, we’re still in a great position and luckily two of our main rivals, Carlisle and Stevenage lost.
However Hartlepool were poor for 70 mins and apart from Paul Smyth we looked toothless, as we did in the 1st half v Colchester until Moncur converted the penalty.
We’re not creating many chances and RW needs to try and put this right. Our defence was excellent earlier in the season but we can’t keep relying on keeping clean sheets.

League Table position would suggest RW is getting it right.

Theres more to it than a quick glib sentence.
We were never as good as the league position suggested. We had a lot of luck in games earlier this season, where we just scraped a win in equal games, such as Mansfield, Carlisle & Stockport, and of course while we were shading those games, our rivals were taking points off each other.
The Juries out on Wellens as far as im concerned now

The sentence about RW is just pure nonsence

[Max Fowler]

Correct. Can't see anything wrong with that summing up.
It was of course our rock solid defence that has got us where we are today.

This doesn’t make any sense.

Our rock solid defence meant we were as good as our league position showed.

Yes, that's right - because of our rock solid defence.

But you said the summing up was correct - we were never as good as our league position suggested and we were lucky.

No, that's not the case. We were as good as our league position suggested early season when we were miles ahead of everyone.