Independent Leyton Orient Forum

aylesburyos wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:44 am Do the 3 January additions play for free?

The Reverend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:03 am We have spent money, just not on transfer fees. I have no idea what the loan arrangements are but I would guess that we are paying some, if not all, of the Rotherham blokes salary. The kid from Brighton I’m not sure and the fella we got on a free will be getting a full salary from us.

Either way, I agree with the sentiment that the board and owners talk a good game but I don’t think put their hands as deeply in their pockets as they would lead us to believe. This is now the third occasion where reluctance to spend properly had impacted us negatively:

1. The whole saga around replacing Justin Edinburgh where we went for the cheap option multiple times (Embleton x 2, Harrold for a bit and then Jobi). I’m also convinced that Carl Fletcher was hired on the cheap. Took way too long to actually hire a proper manager (Jackett).

2. The January transfer window last season. Absolute cack all bought in on loans or free transfers apart from a baffling £80k spent on that Coleman dud.

3. This transfer window. Loans and freebies again.

My suspicion is that those at the top would be satisfied with promotion and are willing to sacrifice doing by winning the league (and relying on finishing 2/3 instead…or even risking the lottery of the play-offs) to save a few quid.

I reckon if we were sitting outside the playoffs money would have been spent. The current situation the owners are looking at it and thinking “I reckon we can get away with not spending much and still be alright”

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:17 am

The Reverend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:03 am We have spent money, just not on transfer fees. I have no idea what the loan arrangements are but I would guess that we are paying some, if not all, of the Rotherham blokes salary. The kid from Brighton I’m not sure and the fella we got on a free will be getting a full salary from us.

Either way, I agree with the sentiment that the board and owners talk a good game but I don’t think put their hands as deeply in their pockets as they would lead us to believe. This is now the third occasion where reluctance to spend properly had impacted us negatively:

1. The whole saga around replacing Justin Edinburgh where we went for the cheap option multiple times (Embleton x 2, Harrold for a bit and then Jobi). I’m also convinced that Carl Fletcher was hired on the cheap. Took way too long to actually hire a proper manager (Jackett).

2. The January transfer window last season. Absolute cack all bought in on loans or free transfers apart from a baffling £80k spent on that Coleman dud.

3. This transfer window. Loans and freebies again.

My suspicion is that those at the top would be satisfied with promotion and are willing to sacrifice doing by winning the league (and relying on finishing 2/3 instead…or even risking the lottery of the play-offs) to save a few quid.

I reckon if we were sitting outside the playoffs money would have been spent. The current situation the owners are looking at it and thinking “I reckon we can get away with not spending much and still be alright”

Totally agree with all of the above ..

But if the club are happy to just get over
the line with a substandard squad and
negative football. please don’t ask the paying public
to part with there hard earnt cash to fund
It ..

The Reverend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:03 am We have spent money, just not on transfer fees. I have no idea what the loan arrangements are but I would guess that we are paying some, if not all, of the Rotherham blokes salary. The kid from Brighton I’m not sure and the fella we got on a free will be getting a full salary from us.

Either way, I agree with the sentiment that the board and owners talk a good game but I don’t think put their hands as deeply in their pockets as they would lead us to believe. This is now the third occasion where reluctance to spend properly had impacted us negatively:

1. The whole saga around replacing Justin Edinburgh where we went for the cheap option multiple times (Embleton x 2, Harrold for a bit and then Jobi). I’m also convinced that Carl Fletcher was hired on the cheap. Took way too long to actually hire a proper manager (Jackett).

2. The January transfer window last season. Absolute cack all bought in on loans or free transfers apart from a baffling £80k spent on that Coleman dud.

3. This transfer window. Loans and freebies again.

My suspicion is that those at the top would be satisfied with promotion and are willing to sacrifice doing by winning the league (and relying on finishing 2/3 instead…or even risking the lottery of the play-offs) to save a few quid.

I reckon if we were sitting outside the playoffs money would have been spent. The current situation the owners are looking at it and thinking “I reckon we can get away with not spending much and still be alright”

Ron Waffle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:40 am Good to see you’ve finally nailed your colours to your mast RE: Moncur. Looking forward to reading your convoluted critiques of every element of his performances for the remainder of the season similar to how we have had to endure with Clay and Ling jnr in the recent past.

Well done.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:23 pm Interesting reading some of the comments. I agree that it seems like the board are confident we will be at least top 3 with what we have, with a few loans or cheap contracts. They may well be right and we will have more budget in league one. It’s a risky old game though. If we did fall out of the top 3 (I don’t think we will btw) and fail in the playoffs, the backlash could be devastating to ticket sales, and goodwill to the owners from the fanbase.

Wally Banter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:37 pm So, yesterday Ling was the cheapskate who underspends the budget allocated to him (and 100% to blame for any recruitment issues), and today the Board are cheapskates for not releasing enough funds for us to recruit better players? Okay, got it.

Wally Banter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:37 pm So, yesterday Ling was the cheapskate who underspends the budget allocated to him (and 100% to blame for any recruitment issues), and today the Board are cheapskates for not releasing enough funds for us to recruit better players? Okay, got it.

The Reverend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:03 am We have spent money, just not on transfer fees. I have no idea what the loan arrangements are but I would guess that we are paying some, if not all, of the Rotherham blokes salary. The kid from Brighton I’m not sure and the fella we got on a free will be getting a full salary from us.

Either way, I agree with the sentiment that the board and owners talk a good game but I don’t think put their hands as deeply in their pockets as they would lead us to believe. This is now the third occasion where reluctance to spend properly had impacted us negatively:

1. The whole saga around replacing Justin Edinburgh where we went for the cheap option multiple times (Embleton x 2, Harrold for a bit and then Jobi). I’m also convinced that Carl Fletcher was hired on the cheap. Took way too long to actually hire a proper manager (Jackett).

2. The January transfer window last season. Absolute cack all bought in on loans or free transfers apart from a baffling £80k spent on that Coleman dud.

3. This transfer window. Loans and freebies again.

My suspicion is that those at the top would be satisfied with promotion and are willing to sacrifice doing by winning the league (and relying on finishing 2/3 instead…or even risking the lottery of the play-offs) to save a few quid.

I reckon if we were sitting outside the playoffs money would have been spent. The current situation the owners are looking at it and thinking “I reckon we can get away with not spending much and still be alright”

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:26 am I genuinely believe our club ( The Board )isnt as keen on promotion as we fans are
This transfer window has been "typical Orient". By that i mean cheapskate.

They like to give the impression they are progressive, but its smoke and mirrors, in reality

Three players have been brought in, and have cost the club nowt....a young lad who's not played a league game before, a Rotherham reject, and a guy who hasnt played for a year due to serious injury.

We're top of the league ( till Tuesday), and we shouldnt be bringing in cheapo signings like this. We should be bringing in decent quality players. You dont get promotion with boys, rejects, and sicknotes. Harsh but true.

Hard to take for most fans, but this is true, if we're being really honest.

Remember, so far, a well off club, with about 10 multi millionaires as board members, that are being sponsored by about 30 sponsers, havent spent a single penny in this window, not a single penny!