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BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:37 pm Disappointing to see Marvin carrying on from last season and getting caught on the ball after spending too much time on it. How Sam Ling even gets a game in pre-season is beyond me, awful from those clips. They seemed to keep it down and play it around which is nice, hopefully that carries on and they don't resort to the long ball stuff again.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:03 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:37 pm Disappointing to see Marvin carrying on from last season and getting caught on the ball after spending too much time on it. How Sam Ling even gets a game in pre-season is beyond me, awful from those clips. They seemed to keep it down and play it around which is nice, hopefully that carries on and they don't resort to the long ball stuff again.

Not quite sure how you can slate Sam Ling on the basis of these highlights.

I don't remember Marvin being caught on the ball last season. He did here, yes, but it was potentially a foul and is the second game in preseason. I wouldn't want to discourage him from playing out of the back, after he did so well last season.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:24 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:03 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:37 pm Disappointing to see Marvin carrying on from last season and getting caught on the ball after spending too much time on it. How Sam Ling even gets a game in pre-season is beyond me, awful from those clips. They seemed to keep it down and play it around which is nice, hopefully that carries on and they don't resort to the long ball stuff again.

Not quite sure how you can slate Sam Ling on the basis of these highlights.

I don't remember Marvin being caught on the ball last season. He did here, yes, but it was potentially a foul and is the second game in preseason. I wouldn't want to discourage him from playing out of the back, after he did so well last season.

Not quite sure how you can't slate him.

You must have missed all the times he tried bringing the ball into midfield with no passing option on then. It happened a lot.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:58 pm Be interested to hear from somewhere there as to whether that was a fair reflection of the game or not. I'm hoping it's just because that's Hulls offering and not an indication of how one sided things were.

Couple of minor points as it's still only a run about at this stage to get match sharpness but -

- They were allowed to pick up second balls and break quickly from midfield in that first half. Lots of runners let go as well. Our defence had no cover.

- Just after their first goal, I LOLed at Jimmy getting knocked off the ball and falling over on his arse by a shoulder barge from someone half his size. How is someone so massive so weak?

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:59 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:24 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:03 pm

Not quite sure how you can slate Sam Ling on the basis of these highlights.

I don't remember Marvin being caught on the ball last season. He did here, yes, but it was potentially a foul and is the second game in preseason. I wouldn't want to discourage him from playing out of the back, after he did so well last season.

Not quite sure how you can't slate him.

You must have missed all the times he tried bringing the ball into midfield with no passing option on then. It happened a lot.

It just seems bizarre that you have chosen this set of highlights to slate him- almost like you're waiting for any opportunity.

I don't think it did. I remember him striding into the opposition half and starting attacks plenty, though.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:14 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:59 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:24 pm
Not quite sure how you can't slate him.

You must have missed all the times he tried bringing the ball into midfield with no passing option on then. It happened a lot.

It just seems bizarre that you have chosen this set of highlights to slate him- almost like you're waiting for any opportunity.

I don't think it did. I remember him striding into the opposition half and starting attacks plenty, though.

I haven't seen the Harlow highlights. I've quite consistently said how bad a player he is, nothing to do with waiting for an opportunity. He wasn't good enough at NL level and he's not good enough at League 2 level.

He started off well and bringing it into midfield but from around the middle of the season, he was getting caught out in midfield trying to do too much and he's not quick enough off the mark to get back.

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:27 pm Now is not the time to be slsghing off the players. Let them get fit first and up to speed before slaughtering them at least.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:59 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:58 pm

- Just after their first goal, I LOLed at Jimmy getting knocked off the ball and falling over on his arse by a shoulder barge from someone half his size. How is someone so massive so weak?

It's called momentum. If you had been at Harlow you would have seen that he is anything but weak.