Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Saw this online but I'm not sure if this is a replica of an actual shirt. Can't make sense of the badge - anyone?

https://www.toffs.com/shop-by-team/foot ... ball-shirt

Dunno. But comforting to note that they sell it in the luxurious 3XL size.

Yes, it's definitely real. Think it represents P&O shipping line, where the Orient part of name comes from

Yep, it's a genuine Orient shirt. It dates from the mid 60's, I think. It was the first Orient kit that I ever saw - I first went in late 66 or early 67. If you've got a copy of the Kaufman & Ravenhill book (1974), you'll find a couple of photos of the team wearing it. Page 110 has an action shot which shows Mancini, Rofe, Taylor and Allen wearing it. I believe that the badge is derived from the P&O shipping line flag colours. The 'Orient' is, of course, the 'O' in P&O.

Seem to remember it being the kit for the promotion season 69/70

It's when the Orient Shipping Line changed it's name to P&O I believe.

yumyumO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:13 pm Seem to remember it being the kit for the promotion season 69/70

Yep, it would have been worn then.
According to the Historical Football kits website, the club used this design from 67 -70.
I seem to remember that, in it's early incarnation, it had the name 'Orient', in white, down the seam of the shorts.
Does anybody else remember that?

EH16 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:59 am Saw this online but I'm not sure if this is a replica of an actual shirt. Can't make sense of the badge - anyone?

https://www.toffs.com/shop-by-team/foot ... ball-shirt

Having looked at the link that you provided to the Toffs website, I think that the image shows the badge to be slightly the wrong colour. The segment that appears to be orange (on my VDU) was actually yellow.

yep, Definitely the shirt from the 69/70 season. I bought one off Toffs several years ago. Its very thick / heavy material - good quality but wouldn't want to run around in it!

colour on the shirt I have is more orange than yellow but if you look at old coloured photos of 69 / 70 they were more towards orange than yellow.

This in an ongoing debate with TOFFs
The P&O logo is yellow and the initial batches in the early 2000s were yellow
However, some pics from the 70's ( notably from Goal Mag) appear Orange and Alan the owner of TOFFS deciced to "update"
The printers of the magazine must have upped the Magenta in the CMYK

I think the blue is now too dark too - should be more of a royal and is a navy.
Yes, I do have sleepless nights about this sort of stuff.

I am very tempted to appear in the sky blue away kit for the period!

Modern reproduction of an old shirt.

Thank you for all the info, people. Much appreciated. Part of Orient's history I'd apparently missed out on. Might get one, now.

Have a look at www.kitclassics.co.uk if your interested in all the kits from 1881 to 2019.

Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:18 pm It's when the Orient Shipping Line changed it's name to P&O I believe.

Not exactly - the P&O name has been around since early 19th century. P&O (originally Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Company) had been first partners with, and then had a controlling interest in, the Orient Line (Orient Steam Navigation Company). The Orient Line had a famous ship called the SS Orient, which was the likely influence for Jack Dearing suggesting the name 'Orient Football Club' in 1888 (if I remember an article I read somewhere once, possibly the Orientear).

P&O took over the Orient Line completely in 1960 (to become P&O-Orient Lines), then in 1966 dropped the 'Orient Line' as everything folded into P&O.

Well done Bergen.

Worst thing i ever bought
5 washes & it was done & in the bin
Admittedly they were a tenner back then.

Hope the quality has got better with the hike in price.

Definitely real there's a picture of them wearing it in the club reception something to with P & O shipping line where we get our name from.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:50 pm Well done Bergen.

Is that Peter Brabrook hiding behind that smile

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:07 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:50 pm Well done Bergen.

Is that Peter Brabrook hiding behind that smile

You are spot on.

BengeO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:10 pm Have a look at www.kitclassics.co.uk if your interested in all the kits from 1881 to 2019.

Nice site but odd that they show the sky blue braces away and not the red strip.
Also... Robbery footage shows us in blue shorts for 66/67 ( site shows white shorts)
Can someone confirm when we officially became Orient? - site shows it as 66/7 but all progs for that season are branded Leyton Orient ( was the change mid season perhaps?)
I got no sleep last night

This is also worth a look:
http://historicalkits.co.uk/Leyton_Orie ... Orient.htm

69Chevy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:18 am

BengeO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:10 pm Have a look at www.kitclassics.co.uk if your interested in all the kits from 1881 to 2019.

Nice site but odd that they show the sky blue braces away and not the red strip.
Also... Robbery footage shows us in blue shorts for 66/67 ( site shows white shorts)
Can someone confirm when we officially became Orient? - site shows it as 66/7 but all progs for that season are branded Leyton Orient ( was the change mid season perhaps?)
I got no sleep last night

...and not forgetting the inconsistency of showing some seasons away kit but not others...and wheres this seasons commemorative Clapton O kit that we wore against Bromley?

I had the all red kit back in 69 - it was purchased for me from either the Co-op Stratford Broadway or McNeils sports shop at Harrow Green (sorry memory isnt what it used to be - and that was never brilliant). The badge was already embroidered on - it came as an additional printed cut out and sew on 'patch'...and that was definitely a yellow segment, not amber.

"My lads are out".