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Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:34 am
by Chelmsford Swimmer
Shows our strength in depth when this is our reserve team:

Leyton Orient: Sargeant, Wood, Ogie, Thompson, Smith, Sotiriou Brown, Georgiou, Young, Sweeney, Obiero

https://www.leytonorient.com/news/2022/ ... -friendly/

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:39 am
by Max Fowler
That team would get relegated.

I thought Young had gone out on loan as well?

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:59 am
by Adz
It shows the quality depth in some areas, and not others (midfield) that's for sure.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:49 am
by Petrov788
Gary the Plumber wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:39 am That team would get relegated.

I thought Young had gone out on loan as well?
practically all league 2 clubs would get relegated if they had to play their 2nd string all season.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:04 am
by Chelmsford Swimmer
Gary the Plumber wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:39 am That team would get relegated.

I thought Young had gone out on loan as well?
Supposed to be on loan to Wealdstone. That said played 48 minutes of one pre-season friendly, and hasn't been in their squad for any of their National League matches.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:02 am
by Max Fowler
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:04 am
Gary the Plumber wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:39 am That team would get relegated.

I thought Young had gone out on loan as well?
Supposed to be on loan to Wealdstone. That said played 48 minutes of one pre-season friendly, and hasn't been in their squad for any of their National League matches.
Bloody hell, what’s gone on there?

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:02 am
by Paddy
Gary the Plumber wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:39 am That team would get relegated.

I thought Young had gone out on loan as well?
No they wouldn’t. Not even close.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:22 am
by Max Fowler
Paddy wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:02 am [quote="Gary the Plumber" post_id=282169 time=<a href="tel:1661405966">1661405966</a> user_id=1255]
That team would get relegated.

I thought Young had gone out on loan as well?
No they wouldn’t. Not even close.
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You reckon a midfield 3 of Brown, Obeiro and Young could compete at L2 as a unit? Like, seriously?

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:01 pm
by Paddy
Gary the Plumber wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:22 am
Paddy wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:02 am [quote="Gary the Plumber" post_id=282169 time=<a href="tel:1661405966">1661405966</a> user_id=1255]
That team would get relegated.

I thought Young had gone out on loan as well?
No they wouldn’t. Not even close.
You reckon a midfield 3 of Brown, Obeiro and Young could compete at L2 as a unit? Like, seriously?
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Would they compete for honours? No. Would they get relegated as part of a team containing those other players? Absolutely not.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:22 pm
by LittleMate
Its a mute point chaps. Its a reserve team.

What we should be able to agree on is that its a better reserve team than we have had for many years. Should give us cause for optimism through the season ahead.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:25 pm
by Paddy
LittleMate wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:22 pm Its a mute point chaps. Its a reserve team.

What we should be able to agree on is that its a better reserve team than we have had for many years. Should give us cause for optimism through the season ahead.
Fully agree 👍

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:33 pm
by tuffers#1
Paddy wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:25 pm
LittleMate wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:22 pm Its a mute point chaps. Its a reserve team.

What we should be able to agree on is that its a better reserve team than we have had for many years. Should give us cause for optimism through the season ahead.
Fully agree 👍
Yes Ignore the workman , seems a bit dim regards to Footy

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:33 pm
by POSHO
Remember Clay and Drinan still to consider.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:46 pm
by Max Fowler
Paddy wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:01 pm
Would they compete for honours? No. Would they get relegated as part of a team containing those other players? Absolutely not.
I'm not sure we're going to get very far with this one - that midfield would see you relegated.

Thompson, Ogie, Smith and Ruel (and Wood if things were different) are all 1st team standard, the others not so.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:46 pm
by Max Fowler
Paddy wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:25 pm
LittleMate wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:22 pm Its a mute point chaps. Its a reserve team.

What we should be able to agree on is that its a better reserve team than we have had for many years. Should give us cause for optimism through the season ahead.
Fully agree 👍
Full agreement from over here as well.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:11 pm
by Cheshunto
Anybody know why Young is back in E10
Personally I think there is a player in there but I wonder why he didn’t last at Wealdstone

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:26 pm
by Top of the JES
Called back just to play in this game I would think, chance for the coaching staff to keep an eye on him, I dont think hes started yet for Wealdtone so probably needs game time.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:40 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Not uncommon for young youth players to still train with their parent club a few days a week and play in reserve games

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:53 pm
by Max Fowler
Really disappointing that he's not getting any game time at Wealdstone - if they don't think he's ready for the National League yet, that's a worry.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:54 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
He’s a quality player, you can tell, even at his age. I’m sure there’s a reason he’s not playing but it’s not his quality. He’ll be really good for us.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:57 pm
by gshaw
Gary the Plumber wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:46 pm
Paddy wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:01 pm
Would they compete for honours? No. Would they get relegated as part of a team containing those other players? Absolutely not.
I'm not sure we're going to get very far with this one - that midfield would see you relegated.

Thompson, Ogie, Smith and Ruel (and Wood if things were different) are all 1st team standard, the others not so.
Agree with the Plumber here, have people forgotten the midfield we were fielding back in January with Coleman, Young etc looking completely lost?

As Wellens said players like Young and Obieiro aren't anywhere near ready yet. That's the biggest difference this season so far squad wise - sending the inexperienced youth out on loan and swiftly dispensing with the notion that they're first team squad ready options. Fine for the PJ Cup and giving that competition the (lack of) respect it deserves.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:35 pm
by tuffers#1
gshaw wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:57 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:46 pm
Paddy wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:01 pm
Would they compete for honours? No. Would they get relegated as part of a team containing those other players? Absolutely not.
I'm not sure we're going to get very far with this one - that midfield would see you relegated.

Thompson, Ogie, Smith and Ruel (and Wood if things were different) are all 1st team standard, the others not so.
Agree with the Plumber here, have people forgotten the midfield we were fielding back in January with Coleman, Young etc looking completely lost?

As Wellens said players like Young and Obieiro aren't anywhere near ready yet. That's the biggest difference this season so far squad wise - sending the inexperienced youth out on loan and swiftly dispensing with the notion that they're first team squad ready options. Fine for the PJ Cup and giving that competition the (lack of) respect it deserves.
The entire team were lost last january . Only a Philestine would blame the midfield .

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:14 pm
by gshaw
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:35 pm
gshaw wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:57 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:46 pm

I'm not sure we're going to get very far with this one - that midfield would see you relegated.

Thompson, Ogie, Smith and Ruel (and Wood if things were different) are all 1st team standard, the others not so.
Agree with the Plumber here, have people forgotten the midfield we were fielding back in January with Coleman, Young etc looking completely lost?

As Wellens said players like Young and Obieiro aren't anywhere near ready yet. That's the biggest difference this season so far squad wise - sending the inexperienced youth out on loan and swiftly dispensing with the notion that they're first team squad ready options. Fine for the PJ Cup and giving that competition the (lack of) respect it deserves.
The entire team were lost last january . Only a Philestine would blame the midfield .
The midfield options just weren't up to it, you lose that area you lose the game. There's a good reason Coleman and Young are nowhere near the squad this season.

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:17 pm
by tuffers#1
gshaw wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:14 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:35 pm
gshaw wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:57 pm

Agree with the Plumber here, have people forgotten the midfield we were fielding back in January with Coleman, Young etc looking completely lost?

As Wellens said players like Young and Obieiro aren't anywhere near ready yet. That's the biggest difference this season so far squad wise - sending the inexperienced youth out on loan and swiftly dispensing with the notion that they're first team squad ready options. Fine for the PJ Cup and giving that competition the (lack of) respect it deserves.
The entire team were lost last january . Only a Philestine would blame the midfield .
The midfield options just weren't up to it, you lose that area you lose the game. There's a good reason Coleman and Young are nowhere near the squad this season.
We stopped scoring goals
& were conceding goals .
Nowt to do with the middle bjt
It was the 2 end bits that were f*cked !

Re: Leyton Orient 4-1 Charlton Athl. U23

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:01 pm
by gshaw
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:17 pm
gshaw wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:14 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:35 pm

The entire team were lost last january . Only a Philestine would blame the midfield .
The midfield options just weren't up to it, you lose that area you lose the game. There's a good reason Coleman and Young are nowhere near the squad this season.
We stopped scoring goals
& were conceding goals .
Nowt to do with the middle bjt
It was the 2 end bits that were f*cked !
You know as well as I do if you lose the middle of the park it puts more pressure on the defence. Similarly if you can't win or keep the ball you can't get it to the attackers to score.

Look at the some of the 50:50 challenges El Miz has been crashing through in the last couple of games as evidence of that. Makes a huge difference. As RW said the midfield was unbalanced, with too many similar players. He's sorted that out sharpish and it makes all the difference.