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Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:53 am
by Proposition Joe
Slavery was normal.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:01 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Veganism/not eating meat will almost certainly become the ethical norm in the not too distant future, and I actually quite like the little societal nudges towards it (like treating “cow milk” as a weird thing to want)
PETA though seem to be more about getting their name in the paper than in persuading anyone. Their last stunt, as I recall, was asking Warhammer to stop making barbarian figures wear animal skins.
And isn’t there something about PETA being stridently anti pet, and even euthanising healthy animals in significant numbers?
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:54 am
by Long slender neck
You're comparing the food chain to slavery?
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:55 am
by Proposition Joe
PETA are definitely crank-adjacent and, despite usually being based on fact or relatively reasonable thinking, some of their campaigns are probably doing more harm than good due to being so ridiculous. But credit it to them, they have a modus operandi of being absurd, regularly getting the attention they seek and winding up people like Dunnem.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:55 am
by Proposition Joe
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:54 am
You're comparing the food chain to slavery?
No, just pointing out that "it's normal" is a really dumb argument.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:58 am
by Long slender neck
Its dumber to say paint is normalising something already normal.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:02 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:55 am
PETA are definitely crank-adjacent and, despite usually being based on fact or relatively reasonable thinking, some of their campaigns are probably doing more harm than good due to being so ridiculous. But credit it to them, they have a modus operandi of being absurd, regularly getting the attention they seek and winding up people like Dunnem.
I don’t understand why you’d see “successfully getting attention” as deserving credit when they’re cranky and absurd, and make it very easy to popularise the idea that veganism is by extension the preserve of absurd cranks.
As far as I can see, veganism and reduced consumption of meat/animal products is happening because of better alternatives becoming more readily available. These stunts are actively off putting to the undecided, no?
Basically, what I’m getting at is Veganism doesn’t need to be anywhere near the idea of “woke” - the health aspect and the general awareness of sustainability and cruelty concerns is already working, no?
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:20 am
by Proposition Joe
If someone sets out to be a pr!ck and is good at it, or wants to be really annoying and successfully annoys people, then there's a modicum of credit due, no? It doesn't do anyone any good but they've achieved what they intended to do.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:23 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Ah, got it. Yes, to be fair, they are very good at finding the exact place to decide to kick up a stink for maximum headline potential.
Anyway I’m off to beaten by a whisker for a tasty vegan sausage roll.
I think the staff team has been imported wholesale from Froth & Rind. Either that or a glitch in the matrix meaning the peak Walthamstow barista models are being reused in multiple cafes
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:24 am
by Long slender neck
Its what half of us here hope to achieve.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:00 am
by Proposition Joe
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:23 am
Ah, got it. Yes, to be fair, they are very good at finding the exact place to decide to kick up a stink for maximum headline potential.
Anyway I’m off to beaten by a whisker for a tasty vegan sausage roll.
I think the staff team has been imported wholesale from Froth & Rind. Either that or a glitch in the matrix meaning the peak Walthamstow barista models are being reused in multiple cafes
Had the same sensation with the staff at Forest Road Tesco and the Coop by Blackhorse Road tube, actually turns out half the staff work at both of them.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:25 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:46 am
by Celtient
I'm not on X so can't see the replies, but presumably a load of right wing ranting about "PC gone mad". Brum was a kiddies programme about a car called Brum and that warning notice was put up by mistake, as was acknowledged by the BBC shortly afterwards.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:58 am
by Currywurst and Chips
It was definitely a mistake
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:11 pm
by idontkn0 M
If BBC said it was a mistake it was a mistake
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:49 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
idontkn0 M wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:11 pm
If BBC said it was a mistake it was a mistake
It was definitely a mistake
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:59 am
by faldO
Irish schoolbook publisher EdCo has apologised for its portrayal of a "typical Irish family" in a lesson aimed at highlighting diversity.
A red-headed Irish family were shown in Aran jumpers outside a cottage where they "eat potatoes, bacon and cabbage every day" and they "do not like change or difference". The children "get told off if we mix with people with a different religion from ours as they would be a bad influence on us".
They are contrasted with a diverse family who love change and difference, enjoy curry, pizza and Asian food, and spend their time travelling abroad, frequenting art galleries. They also house swap with a family in a different country most years.
The metro elitist mindset revealed in all its glory.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/e ... 61184.html
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:54 am
by idontkn0 M
faldO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:59 am
Irish schoolbook publisher EdCo has apologised for its portrayal of a "typical Irish family" in a lesson aimed at highlighting diversity.
A red-headed Irish family were shown in Aran jumpers outside a cottage where they "eat potatoes, bacon and cabbage every day" and they "do not like change or difference". The children "get told off if we mix with people with a different religion from ours as they would be a bad influence on us".
They are contrasted with a diverse family who love change and difference, enjoy curry, pizza and Asian food, and spend their time travelling abroad, frequenting art galleries. They also house swap with a family in a different country most years.
The metro elitist mindset revealed in all its glory.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/e ... 61184.html
Sigh. Sickening.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:55 am
by Dunners
More discrimination against gingers. And, as usual, deafening silence from the so-called anti-racists.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:58 am
by Proposition Joe
Pretty funny that something 'woke' actually managed to be incredibly racist.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:11 am
by Dunners
Identity politics will always eventually bite itself on its arse.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:26 am
by Dunners
About a year ago, when I was over in Ireland, I recall watching one of those imbecilic audience political debate shows you get on the telly, usually on a Sunday morning. You know the ones - where everyone already has their point of view, and is just looking for an opportunity to say it loudly at opponents, and neither side is ever going to be persuaded by the other (never mind actually try and understand their views).
The topic was about mass migration into Ireland, and that many in the studio were objecting to what they feel was a policy being imposed on them, without any democratic mandate. Judging by which comments received the most claps, I think it was fair to say that the vast majority of the studio audience was of the opinion that they were uneasy with the situation.
Then there were the usual pro-immigration lobbyists providing the counter argument as to why this was a good thing really, necessary even, and that the Irish should embrace it. There were even a few remarks that immigrants were just as Irish as those who could trace their lineage in Ireland back multiple generations.
But my favourite comment came from one of the woke element in the audience (yes, they had dyed their hair purple). It was essentially along the lines of mass immigration into Ireland being a consequence of colonialism. Said without shame. To an Irish audience.
Well, it cheered me up and made my Sunday morning.
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:09 pm
by idontkn0 M
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:26 am
About a year ago, when I was over in Ireland, I recall watching one of those imbecilic audience political debate shows you get on the telly, usually on a Sunday morning. You know the ones - where everyone already has their point of view, and is just looking for an opportunity to say it loudly at opponents, and neither side is ever going to be persuaded by the other (never mind actually try and understand their views).
The topic was about mass migration into Ireland, and that many in the studio were objecting to what they feel was a policy being imposed on them, without any democratic mandate. Judging by which comments received the most claps, I think it was fair to say that the vast majority of the studio audience was of the opinion that they were uneasy with the situation.
Then there were the usual pro-immigration lobbyists providing the counter argument as to why this was a good thing really, necessary even, and that the Irish should embrace it. There were even a few remarks that immigrants were just as Irish as those who could trace their lineage in Ireland back multiple generations.
But my favourite comment came from one of the woke element in the audience (yes, they had dyed their hair purple). It was essentially along the lines of mass immigration into Ireland being a consequence of colonialism. Said without shame. To an Irish audience.
Well, it cheered me up and made my Sunday morning.
Yeh just doesn't make sense there.
There is a village in Ireland somewhere with a population of about 187 - fair few elderly. And the government have installed/are fighting to install a 'refugee'/migrant centre there holding about 250+ mostly 20/30/40 year old men.
What is driving it
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:16 pm
by idontkn0 M
idontkn0 M wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:09 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:26 am
About a year ago, when I was over in Ireland, I recall watching one of those imbecilic audience political debate shows you get on the telly, usually on a Sunday morning. You know the ones - where everyone already has their point of view, and is just looking for an opportunity to say it loudly at opponents, and neither side is ever going to be persuaded by the other (never mind actually try and understand their views).
The topic was about mass migration into Ireland, and that many in the studio were objecting to what they feel was a policy being imposed on them, without any democratic mandate. Judging by which comments received the most claps, I think it was fair to say that the vast majority of the studio audience was of the opinion that they were uneasy with the situation.
Then there were the usual pro-immigration lobbyists providing the counter argument as to why this was a good thing really, necessary even, and that the Irish should embrace it. There were even a few remarks that immigrants were just as Irish as those who could trace their lineage in Ireland back multiple generations.
But my favourite comment came from one of the woke element in the audience (yes, they had dyed their hair purple). It was essentially along the lines of mass immigration into Ireland being a consequence of colonialism. Said without shame. To an Irish audience.
Well, it cheered me up and made my Sunday morning.
Yeh just doesn't make sense there.
There is a village in Ireland somewhere with a population of about 187 - fair few elderly. And the government have installed/are fighting to install a 'refugee'/migrant centre there holding about 250+ mostly 20/30/40 year old men.
What is driving it
Dundrum village. 160 locals. 280 migrants.
Nothing against the migrants, would undoubtedly do the same in their shoes.
Feel for the locals and begs the question: WHY is this happening? Far and wide
Re: Woke watch.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:50 pm
by Long slender neck
Why is what happening?