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Re: U.S Election

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:32 pm
by tuffers#1

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:36 pm
by PoliticOs
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:09 pm No, not yet . Watch what happens on the 6th.
Make sure you do...but even then you won't believe it.

Look at the link I posted. The man does not care for democracy. Poundshop dictator.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:45 pm
by Oiram
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:32 pm
Oiram wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:30 pm If you listen to the small radio stations in the USA, as I do, there has been non-stop talk of election fraud evidence being revealed daily. I would not be surprised at all if Trump remained.
Evidence ?
Nothing in a court of Law though !
No, just on radio, no courts. Speculation.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:46 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:14 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:09 pm No, not yet . Watch what happens on the 6th.
Proud boys going to storm the whitehouse & shoot all the secret service mob ?
No , dual electors will do the job instead .

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:50 pm
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:46 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:14 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:09 pm No, not yet . Watch what happens on the 6th.
Proud boys going to storm the whitehouse & shoot all the secret service mob ?
No , dual electors will do the job instead .
Duel electors ?
Nah , not happening .

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:53 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:46 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:14 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:09 pm No, not yet . Watch what happens on the 6th.
Proud boys going to storm the whitehouse & shoot all the secret service mob ?
No , dual electors will do the job instead .
No comment on the trump call?

Not sure you’d be this coy if Biden was caught asking someone to find votes

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:47 am
by tuffers#1
Oiram wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:45 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:32 pm
Oiram wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:30 pm If you listen to the small radio stations in the USA, as I do, there has been non-stop talk of election fraud evidence being revealed daily. I would not be surprised at all if Trump remained.
Evidence ?
Nothing in a court of Law though !
No, just on radio, no courts. Speculation.
Nothing more than rabble rousing then .

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:55 am
by Oiram
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:47 am
Oiram wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:45 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:32 pm

Evidence ?
Nothing in a court of Law though !
No, just on radio, no courts. Speculation.
Nothing more than rabble rousing then .
Yes. More news overnight of Trump recorded ‘seeking votes’, the odd 11k or so. The plot thickens, he may be losing it also, who knows?
Probably been eating asparagus out of season.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:15 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Those votes he's talking about are already his. There has been a lot of voting shenanigans going on . I expect the sh*t to hit the fan on Wednesday.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:20 am
by PoliticOs
Then why didn't he say that? He was begging and bargaining and exerting force. He didn't say how or why they were his, just kept asking if there was fraud as he has nothing. What he did was completely wrong and if it wasn't just 16 days from him leaving would have resulted in successful impeachment.

But we'll see on Wednesday. They'll be amateur theatre from those in the GOP that want to ride the Trump train of popularity, but nothing is stopping Biden coming in on the 20th. I think you know that.

Even when he does you'll still think it was a stolen election because Donald told you it was despite the fact it just doesn't stack up. I don't blame you for it, he has his own weird bit of charisma, I just think you are ignoring your head for your heart.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:32 am
by RedDwarf 1881
PoliticOs wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:20 am Then why didn't he say that? He was begging and bargaining and exerting force. He didn't say how or why they were his, just kept asking if there was fraud as he has nothing. What he did was completely wrong and if it wasn't just 16 days from him leaving would have resulted in successful impeachment.

But we'll see on Wednesday. They'll be amateur theatre from those in the GOP that want to ride the Trump train of popularity, but nothing is stopping Biden coming in on the 20th. I think you know that.

Even when he does you'll still think it was a stolen election because Donald told you it was despite the fact it just doesn't stack up. I don't blame you for it, he has his own weird bit of charisma, I just think you are ignoring your head for your heart.
if you're referring to that private phone call ,he didn't know he was being recorded and as usual he's being taken out of context. Anyway, open your eyes, There's a lot more people than Donald Trump saying it was stolen. I figure it's about 80 million Republicans who also believe it .

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:50 am
by StillSpike
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:32 am
PoliticOs wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:20 am Then why didn't he say that? He was begging and bargaining and exerting force. He didn't say how or why they were his, just kept asking if there was fraud as he has nothing. What he did was completely wrong and if it wasn't just 16 days from him leaving would have resulted in successful impeachment.

But we'll see on Wednesday. They'll be amateur theatre from those in the GOP that want to ride the Trump train of popularity, but nothing is stopping Biden coming in on the 20th. I think you know that.

Even when he does you'll still think it was a stolen election because Donald told you it was despite the fact it just doesn't stack up. I don't blame you for it, he has his own weird bit of charisma, I just think you are ignoring your head for your heart.
if you're referring to that private phone call ,he didn't know he was being recorded and as usual he's being taken out of context. Anyway, open your eyes, There's a lot more people than Donald Trump saying it was stolen. I figure it's about 80 million Republicans who also believe it .
Of course they believe it. The alternative would be to have to admit to themselves that the person they idolise is a liar. And that would have some bearing on their self image. Does that in any way sound familiar?

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:02 pm
by PoliticOs
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:32 am
PoliticOs wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:20 am Then why didn't he say that? He was begging and bargaining and exerting force. He didn't say how or why they were his, just kept asking if there was fraud as he has nothing. What he did was completely wrong and if it wasn't just 16 days from him leaving would have resulted in successful impeachment.

But we'll see on Wednesday. They'll be amateur theatre from those in the GOP that want to ride the Trump train of popularity, but nothing is stopping Biden coming in on the 20th. I think you know that.

Even when he does you'll still think it was a stolen election because Donald told you it was despite the fact it just doesn't stack up. I don't blame you for it, he has his own weird bit of charisma, I just think you are ignoring your head for your heart.
if you're referring to that private phone call ,he didn't know he was being recorded and as usual he's being taken out of context. Anyway, open your eyes, There's a lot more people than Donald Trump saying it was stolen. I figure it's about 80 million Republicans who also believe it .
Well, if he didn't know he was being recorded putting pressure on election officials to 'find' votes, that is absolutely fine.

Belief does not equal = fact. I might believe I could pull Megan Fox, but that doesn't mean I can.*



*I could

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:10 pm
by BoniO
Christ on a bike, at his level you should always assume that a call may be being recorded as the norm. If you at least begin the call by asking the person on the other end of the phone "is this being recorded?" and they say no then that puts them in a difficult position legally (I'd also lay money that Trumps team were recording the call at their end). However, nothing detracts from the fact that what Trump did was corrupt, illegal and incredibly stupid. No surprises there then.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:22 pm
by Mistadobalina
Fair play to Trump, clearest evidence we've had of an attempt to fix the election.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:31 pm
by Mistadobalina
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:32 am
PoliticOs wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:20 am Then why didn't he say that? He was begging and bargaining and exerting force. He didn't say how or why they were his, just kept asking if there was fraud as he has nothing. What he did was completely wrong and if it wasn't just 16 days from him leaving would have resulted in successful impeachment.

But we'll see on Wednesday. They'll be amateur theatre from those in the GOP that want to ride the Trump train of popularity, but nothing is stopping Biden coming in on the 20th. I think you know that.

Even when he does you'll still think it was a stolen election because Donald told you it was despite the fact it just doesn't stack up. I don't blame you for it, he has his own weird bit of charisma, I just think you are ignoring your head for your heart.
if you're referring to that private phone call ,he didn't know he was being recorded and as usual he's being taken out of context. Anyway, open your eyes, There's a lot more people than Donald Trump saying it was stolen. I figure it's about 80 million Republicans who also believe it .
It makes me sad to think you believe this guff. You're living in a fantasy world in which a guy who's losing/lost his marbles is an oracle and any source that disagrees with him is in on this global conspiracy. Does it not strike you as odd that the conspiracy is never the same, that the fraud was done in about a million different ways, instigated by different actors with different aims? That the president's key lawyers are Gulliani and that woman who said this was all being done by Chavez from beyond the grave?

What's your threshold of proof to admit you're wrong?

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:39 pm
by roffeys money
A pound to a penny they'll be down the back of the sofa, amazing what turns up there, or down the side of the car seat. Mark my words, they'll be in one of those places.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:47 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:31 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:32 am
PoliticOs wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:20 am Then why didn't he say that? He was begging and bargaining and exerting force. He didn't say how or why they were his, just kept asking if there was fraud as he has nothing. What he did was completely wrong and if it wasn't just 16 days from him leaving would have resulted in successful impeachment.

But we'll see on Wednesday. They'll be amateur theatre from those in the GOP that want to ride the Trump train of popularity, but nothing is stopping Biden coming in on the 20th. I think you know that.

Even when he does you'll still think it was a stolen election because Donald told you it was despite the fact it just doesn't stack up. I don't blame you for it, he has his own weird bit of charisma, I just think you are ignoring your head for your heart.
if you're referring to that private phone call ,he didn't know he was being recorded and as usual he's being taken out of context. Anyway, open your eyes, There's a lot more people than Donald Trump saying it was stolen. I figure it's about 80 million Republicans who also believe it .
It makes me sad to think you believe this guff. You're living in a fantasy world in which a guy who's losing/lost his marbles is an oracle and any source that disagrees with him is in on this global conspiracy. Does it not strike you as odd that the conspiracy is never the same, that the fraud was done in about a million different ways, instigated by different actors with different aims? That the president's key lawyers are Gulliani and that woman who said this was all being done by Chavez from beyond the grave?

What's your threshold of proof to admit you're wrong?
Going by what I've been watching I think , Georgia , Wisconsin , Pennsylvania, Micihisgan and Arizona are as bent as a nine bob note . If that election stands then they truly are mini banana republics . Honestly, it wouldn't be worth voting in those states ever again.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:00 pm
by Real Al
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:47 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:31 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:32 am

if you're referring to that private phone call ,he didn't know he was being recorded and as usual he's being taken out of context. Anyway, open your eyes, There's a lot more people than Donald Trump saying it was stolen. I figure it's about 80 million Republicans who also believe it .
It makes me sad to think you believe this guff. You're living in a fantasy world in which a guy who's losing/lost his marbles is an oracle and any source that disagrees with him is in on this global conspiracy. Does it not strike you as odd that the conspiracy is never the same, that the fraud was done in about a million different ways, instigated by different actors with different aims? That the president's key lawyers are Gulliani and that woman who said this was all being done by Chavez from beyond the grave?

What's your threshold of proof to admit you're wrong?
Going by what I've been watching I think , Georgia , Wisconsin , Pennsylvania, Micihisgan and Arizona are as bent as a nine bob note . If that election stands then they truly are mini banana republics . Honestly, it wouldn't be worth voting in those states ever again.
But what you've been watching also told you to wear a tinfoil hat

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:11 pm
by Mistadobalina
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:47 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:31 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:32 am

if you're referring to that private phone call ,he didn't know he was being recorded and as usual he's being taken out of context. Anyway, open your eyes, There's a lot more people than Donald Trump saying it was stolen. I figure it's about 80 million Republicans who also believe it .
It makes me sad to think you believe this guff. You're living in a fantasy world in which a guy who's losing/lost his marbles is an oracle and any source that disagrees with him is in on this global conspiracy. Does it not strike you as odd that the conspiracy is never the same, that the fraud was done in about a million different ways, instigated by different actors with different aims? That the president's key lawyers are Gulliani and that woman who said this was all being done by Chavez from beyond the grave?

What's your threshold of proof to admit you're wrong?
Going by what I've been watching I think , Georgia , Wisconsin , Pennsylvania, Micihisgan and Arizona are as bent as a nine bob note . If that election stands then they truly are mini banana republics . Honestly, it wouldn't be worth voting in those states ever again.
But these are generally republican run states. Do you not find it odd that there hasn't been a scrap of certifiable evidence that has stood up in court? That it's only the states he lost that are bent? That republican controlled legislatures generally gerrymander like hell but couldn't swing it this time? That Georgia elected a pro trump governor using voter suppression a couple of years ago, but now is in the pocket of the democrats?

More than that, is it not suspicious to you that Trump was insisting it was gonna be a bent election before it even took place, but never actually specificied where or how, and has gone through dozens of wild theories to since substantiate his lies? Are you not going to reflect on the fact you yourself said the election was rigged before any of this batsh*t 'evidence' came forward?

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:50 pm
by Clive Evans
A lot of Yanks getting nervous that Trump will ask the Military to get involved.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:56 pm
by Sid Bishop
Clive Evans wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:50 pm A lot of Yanks getting nervous that Trump will ask the Military to get involved.
From what I have read, the military will not support him if he attempts to do this in an effort to change USA from being a democracy to a one party dictatorship.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:13 pm
by Sid Bishop
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:11 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:47 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:31 pm

It makes me sad to think you believe this guff. You're living in a fantasy world in which a guy who's losing/lost his marbles is an oracle and any source that disagrees with him is in on this global conspiracy. Does it not strike you as odd that the conspiracy is never the same, that the fraud was done in about a million different ways, instigated by different actors with different aims? That the president's key lawyers are Gulliani and that woman who said this was all being done by Chavez from beyond the grave?

What's your threshold of proof to admit you're wrong?
Going by what I've been watching I think , Georgia , Wisconsin , Pennsylvania, Micihisgan and Arizona are as bent as a nine bob note . If that election stands then they truly are mini banana republics . Honestly, it wouldn't be worth voting in those states ever again.
But these are generally republican run states. Do you not find it odd that there hasn't been a scrap of certifiable evidence that has stood up in court? That it's only the states he lost that are bent? That republican controlled legislatures generally gerrymander like hell but couldn't swing it this time? That Georgia elected a pro trump governor using voter suppression a couple of years ago, but now is in the pocket of the democrats?

More than that, is it not suspicious to you that Trump was insisting it was gonna be a bent election before it even took place, but never actually specificied where or how, and has gone through dozens of wild theories to since substantiate his lies? Are you not going to reflect on the fact you yourself said the election was rigged before any of this batsh*t 'evidence' came forward?
Trump hero worships Dictators like Putin and Kim Jong-un, he just wants to join the Dictator club and establish a family dynasty of having a Trump as permanent ''Dear Leader'' of the USA. Trump disdains old Allies of America and much prefers the company of ''Strong men'' leaders of his countries enemies. He has been well caught out here with this recorded phone call, but such is the bizarre hero worship of this egomaniac that whatever he does, his voter base is so bewitched and under his spell that they will still follow his every word and believe whatever lies and nonsense comes out of his mouth. Not the first time this has happened , the fascist murderer Hitler in the 1930s had a similar effect on the German people.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:11 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
You all do realise of course there is a high chance the vote from the swing states won't be recognised on Wednesday . The fraud that's been going on in those swing states is laughable . I can already see it all now .All the lefties on here will be crying about how Trump stole the election and that he staged a coup.

Re: U.S Election

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:59 pm
by Mistadobalina
Literally every prediction you've made on that election has been wrong, so you deserve credit for sticking to your guns and continuing to make big, pie in the sky calls.