Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Dan Carden who is a shadow minister is under pressure to step down after signing an anti Semitic version of Hey Jude at the Cheltenham races.

Still the party is not anti Semitic now is it?

He did what?

"like true marxists that you are never let the truth get in the way of a lie."

I thought the Tory party had cornered the market in that, May was bad enough but Johnson really turns it into an artform.

Mikero

Mikero I can’t stand may she was an absolute mess as Home Secretary and an absolute disaster as pm.

As for Boris, yeah I’m not too keen on the use of language and words, but given an opportunity he might be a good pm. The things he says he's gonna do sound good, I just hope that he is true to his word.

Still need to see the manifestos first.

I spoke to my MP in the local shop just last week and I asked him what’s the Tory hq saying about the election and he said we expect a majority of between 20-30 seats.

Slightly lower than the majority they were expecting in 2017?

Just reading about their planned immigration policy, should be a vote winner.

"commitment to close all migrant detention centres; abolition of the “no recourse to public funds” legislation that prevents migrants from accessing many services; a move to “maintain and extend free movement rights”; and rejection of “any immigration system based on incomes, migrants’ utility to business, and number caps/targets”.

The biggest lie is 'One Nation Conservatism', closely followed by Labour was 'responsible' for the world banking crisis. Funnily enough the 'Big Lie' was a Stalinist concept.

Mikero

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:24 am Just reading about their planned immigration policy, should be a vote winner.

"commitment to close all migrant detention centres; abolition of the “no recourse to public funds” legislation that prevents migrants from accessing many services; a move to “maintain and extend free movement rights”; and rejection of “any immigration system based on incomes, migrants’ utility to business, and number caps/targets”.

The only people having a problem with that are racist pricks. No one should be locked up and forced to live as 2nd class citizens because they had the audacity to come from another country.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:11 am
As for Boris... The things he says he's gonna do sound good, I just hope that he is true to his word.

Well, I certainly can't think of any reason to doubt what he says.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:11 am Mikero I can’t stand may she was an absolute mess as Home Secretary and an absolute disaster as pm.

As for Boris, yeah I’m not too keen on the use of language and words, but given an opportunity he might be a good pm. The things he says he's gonna do sound good, I just hope that he is true to his word.

Still need to see the manifestos first.

I spoke to my MP in the local shop just last week and I asked him what’s the Tory hq saying about the election and he said we expect a majority of between 20-30 seats.

What has he said he's going to do that sound good? You hope a serial liar is true to his word? You really are an idiot.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:54 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:24 am Just reading about their planned immigration policy, should be a vote winner.

"commitment to close all migrant detention centres; abolition of the “no recourse to public funds” legislation that prevents migrants from accessing many services; a move to “maintain and extend free movement rights”; and rejection of “any immigration system based on incomes, migrants’ utility to business, and number caps/targets”.

The only people having a problem with that are racist pricks. No one should be locked up and forced to live as 2nd class citizens because they had the audacity to come from another country.

That is quite a sweeping statement.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:57 am

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:54 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:24 am Just reading about their planned immigration policy, should be a vote winner.

"commitment to close all migrant detention centres; abolition of the “no recourse to public funds” legislation that prevents migrants from accessing many services; a move to “maintain and extend free movement rights”; and rejection of “any immigration system based on incomes, migrants’ utility to business, and number caps/targets”.

The only people having a problem with that are racist pricks. No one should be locked up and forced to live as 2nd class citizens because they had the audacity to come from another country.

That is quite a sweeping statement.

And I stand by it. If you don't have a problem with human beings being locked up and denied basic rights and access to medical treatment etc, then you're a racist silly sausage.

Presume you're referring to detention centres, can you define 'basic rights' and can you prove they are denied them and access to medical treatment.

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:56 am

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:11 am
As for Boris... The things he says he's gonna do sound good, I just hope that he is true to his word.

Well, I certainly can't think of any reason to doubt what he says.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:09 am Presume you're referring to detention centres, can you define 'basic rights' and can you prove they are denied them and access to medical treatment.

Being locked up for 12 hours a day. They're not given the same standards of healthcare as everyone else.

http://www.medicaljustice.org.uk/health ... detention/

So close detention centers and replace them with? Better to just improve them.

Has comrade corbyn let slip something today? It's quite sinister as well. He said and I quote.

"No guys, you've got to cooperate, you see, under Socialism you will all cooperate."

Scary.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:09 pm Has comrade corbyn let slip something today? It's quite sinister as well. He said and I quote.

"No guys, you've got to cooperate, you see, under Socialism you will all cooperate."

Scary.

I think we both know you're mischievously misrepresenting what he said. If you are actually having trouble with it let me be of some assistance with a clarifying example.

"No John, you can't hit your brother. I know you're cross because he's got the toy you want to play with but its important to learn to share. When you start going to school there'll be lots of other boys and girls and you'll all need to share with each other."

Any clearer?

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:09 pm Has comrade corbyn let slip something today? It's quite sinister as well. He said and I quote.

"No guys, you've got to cooperate, you see, under Socialism you will all cooperate."

Scary.

Oh f*** off

Even the daily mail hadn’t the heart to run with this properly.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:06 am Dan Carden who is a shadow minister is under pressure to step down after signing an anti Semitic version of Hey Jude at the Cheltenham races.

Still the party is not anti Semitic now is it?

Zero evidence for this which has suddenly been brought up now despite allegedly occurring two years ago.

If you want lies, lies and more Trumpesque lies, vote Conservative.

Despicable.

Oh Jezza is investigating, I guess we will be waiting a long time if at all for it to happen.

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/shad ... g-1.492904

Well if it’s in the JC, it must be true.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:34 am So close detention centers and replace them with? Better to just improve them.

Replace them with nothing. Let people live and work here

Unrealistic