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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:32 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:00 am
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:02 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:29 pm Its not milder, its just that most people have some immunity now from vaccines or previous infection.
Prove it?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lder-virus
That was from the day before Prof Neil Fergersons report and other data suggesting it is more mild i.e. it's not up to date news.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperi ... ort-50.pdf

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:24 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Perfectly sensible rules in Wales 🤪🤪🥴🥴

New Covid rules see 50 fans attend Welsh rugby match outside — as 140 people watch it indoors from clubhouse on Boxing Day

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... 0-22583757

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:44 am
by Max B Gold

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:07 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Not wrong. The whole ‘we have consistently followed the science’ doesn’t hold up any longer. I’m not for a lockdown at this stage but the fact that BJ hasn’t enforced any new restrictions is nothing to do with science.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:20 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Boris seems to have gone very quiet again.

I hope he’s having a lovely Xmas with his latest family, wherever he is.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:49 pm
by George M
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59807241

Even the scientists are starting to see sense. Treat it like a common cold and get on with it.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:13 pm
by Long slender neck
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:32 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:00 am
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:02 am

Prove it?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lder-virus
That was from the day before Prof Neil Fergersons report and other data suggesting it is more mild i.e. it's not up to date news.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperi ... ort-50.pdf
Im not sure its even where I read it, to be honest. My point is a milder reaction to the virus doesn't necessarily mean the virus itself is milder.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:20 pm
by Story of O
George M wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:49 pm https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59807241

Even the scientists are starting to see sense. Treat it like a common cold and get on with it.
Can’t agree it is like a cold, I would say it’s getting closer to flu.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:36 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:52 pm
by Story of O
I agree when they say that eventually we will have to end isolation for everyone who gets Covid. If they feel ok to carry on as normal then do it.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:53 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Wasn't a fan of people going to work to cough all over their colleagues and fellow commuters before COVID

Far less so now

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:55 pm
by Story of O
Yes, it’s not nice. But if everyone took time off when they had a sniffle, then everything would grind to a halt

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:58 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Story of O wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:55 pm Yes, it’s not nice. But if everyone took time off when they had a sniffle, then everything would grind to a halt
A runny nose isn't contagious, coughing everywhere is

Also, people aren't frequently being hospitalised with a sniffle

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:09 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
129,471 cases today

150,000 by New Year?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:09 pm
by Story of O
Maybe sniffle was the wrong word. Those who have tested positive, but show little or no symptoms will be allowed to go about their daily business.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:15 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Story of O wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:09 pm Maybe sniffle was the wrong word. Those who have tested positive, but show little or no symptoms will be allowed to go about their daily business.
Except asymptomatic people can still infect others

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:24 pm
by Story of O
So we are going to do this for a long time? There has to come a point where we live with this like we do the flu, which kills on average 18,000 people a year

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:36 pm
by Max B Gold
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:36 pm Some bold comments here

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... -scientist
It hardly matters that its milder if its everywhere. More catch it, more die. NHS Staff get it and go off affecting other treatments as well as The Covids.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:39 pm
by tuffers#1
But flu rarely kills asthma sufferers, pregnant women, the slightly overweight or obese & im sure not to many diabetics. By your reckoning maybe we should let people drink & drive ,lets face it not that many die because some p155ed up pr*ck didnt wanna walk home.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:45 pm
by Story of O
So what’s the answer then?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:52 pm
by tuffers#1
we do what we can to make it as safe as we can untill this covid is gone & be prepared for next one in 5 - 10 years or whenever it lands. remember this is sars - covid 2. There will be more !

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:00 pm
by Story of O
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:39 pm But flu rarely kills asthma sufferers, pregnant women, the slightly overweight or obese & im sure not to many diabetics. By your reckoning maybe we should let people drink & drive ,lets face it not that many die because some p155ed up pr*ck didnt wanna walk home.
I think you are underestimating what flu can do. It can be dangerous for asthma sufferers and pregnant women. It can lead to babies being stillborn. And from what I have seen on line, children are more likely to die from flu than Covid.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:09 pm
by tuffers#1
Story of O wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:00 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:39 pm But flu rarely kills asthma sufferers, pregnant women, the slightly overweight or obese & im sure not to many diabetics. By your reckoning maybe we should let people drink & drive ,lets face it not that many die because some p155ed up pr*ck didnt wanna walk home.
I think you are underestimating what flu can do. It can be dangerous for asthma sufferers and pregnant women. It can lead to babies being stillborn. And from what I have seen on line, children are more likely to die from flu than Covid.
to mild asthma sufferers ? Maybe those with it really bad . See now youhave shown how dangerous flu can , why should we just live with 18,000 deaths a year. or 5.2 million covid deaths in 2 years . maybe we should do moore for both.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:12 pm
by tuffers#1
Story of O wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:24 pm So we are going to do this for a long time? There has to come a point where we live with this like we do the flu, which kills on average 18,000 people a year
all those babies, & you think at some point where we just live with it. NAH MATE !!!!!!

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:19 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Story of O wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:24 pm So we are going to do this for a long time? There has to come a point where we live with this like we do the flu, which kills on average 18,000 people a year
People don't go out and "live their lives" normally when they have the flu