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George wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:30 am I can see they have announced a lockdown for the unvaccinated but can’t see if that was to tackle their delta problems or Omicron. Either way they didn’t act any quicker than us

it is very clear, unvaccinated locked down due to Omicron ,are you being deliberately Obtuse ?

Fair enough. Not disputing it. Just not found it. Not looking in the right places

George wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:00 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:56 pm Can prof George peer review this?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... tudy-warns

Time will review it

Indeed

What a c*nt.

(I’m basing this assessment in the headline only as unable to read the article).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... swers-mps/

Sage calling for a lockdown and essentially saying that after Xmas is too late.

This really is where having a leader with no authority or integrity is so important. There’s no way Boris could do that now and people would take any notice. His frivolous and sloppy leadership will, once again, lead to more deaths.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:31 pm Sage calling for a lockdown and essentially saying that after Xmas is too late.

This really is where having a leader with no authority or integrity is so important. There’s no way Boris could do that now and people would take any notice. His frivolous and sloppy leadership will, once again, lead to more deaths.

But SAGE would of course be aware of all that so begs the questions why that it is being suggested and released to the press in this way. Questionable

They probably think the vast majority would tell Boris where to stick his restrictions if he said no visiting family at Christmas

idontkn0 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:56 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:31 pm Sage calling for a lockdown and essentially saying that after Xmas is too late.

This really is where having a leader with no authority or integrity is so important. There’s no way Boris could do that now and people would take any notice. His frivolous and sloppy leadership will, once again, lead to more deaths.

But SAGE would of course be aware of all that so begs the questions why that it is being suggested and released to the press in this way. Questionable

Sage aren’t there to play politics. They don’t care what it means for Boris, they just have to suggest what they think the right thing is.
As for why and how it’s been leaked is slightly worrying

Im glad whenever the truth is 'leaked'.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:17 pm Im glad whenever the truth is 'leaked'.

Well, yeah. But it’s not as straight forward as that. I’d assume you don’t really want public health recommendations ’leaked’, especially without context, during a stressful and worrying time. Granted it was probably leaked by someone wanting to hold the government to account because they are too scared to enforce another lockdown…

Omicron deaths 7
Omicron hospitalisations 85

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:32 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:17 pm Im glad whenever the truth is 'leaked'.

Well, yeah. But it’s not as straight forward as that. I’d assume you don’t really want public health recommendations ’leaked’, especially without context, during a stressful and worrying time. Granted it was probably leaked by someone wanting to hold the government to account because they are too scared to enforce another lockdown…

I want to hear what the experts think, before it is spun by no10.

Cases pass 10,000, seems like a particularly bad version of the cold this year

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59711474

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:49 pm Cases pass 10,000, seems like a particularly bad version of the cold this year

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59711474

Which we knew would happen. It’s the dominant variant. Deaths and hospitalisations are the trigger as you know. Seems as though that with an estimated 300,000 cases a day and only 50,000 additional reported cases , many are not experiencing symptoms severe enough to bother testing.

Latest government data has shown there are 1,534 Covid patients in London hospitals - up 28.6% on last week - with about 200 new admissions per day

George wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:49 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:49 pm Cases pass 10,000, seems like a particularly bad version of the cold this year

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59711474

Which we knew would happen. It’s the dominant variant. Deaths and hospitalisations are the trigger as you know. Seems as though that with an estimated 300,000 cases a day and only 50,000 additional reported cases , many are not experiencing symptoms severe enough to bother testing.

There’s a lot of people not testing because they don’t want to be isolated for Xmas or miss work, for sure.

Dr Gillian McKeith is on your side George

George wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:49 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:49 pm Cases pass 10,000, seems like a particularly bad version of the cold this year

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59711474

Which we knew would happen. It’s the dominant variant. Deaths and hospitalisations are the trigger as you know. Seems as though that with an estimated 300,000 cases a day and only 50,000 additional reported cases , many are not experiencing symptoms severe enough to bother testing.

When was the last time someone was hospitalised or died of a cold m8?

So as of today , there were 65 hospitalisations in the UK because of Omicron. I haven’t been able to find a death as a result of Omicron. All scientists are still saying that the major symptoms are in order
1. Runny nose
2 . Headache
3 . Fatigue
4 . Aches.

All the symptoms of a cold , basically. I am not posting this to be smug and this is the current picture and not what may happen further down the line.

The Guardian reports 7 Omicron deaths.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:38 pm The Guardian reports 7 Omicron deaths.

With Omicron.

It will eventually turn into a cold as viruses from previous pandemics have done, but i don’t think it is at that stage yet

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:38 pm The Guardian reports 7 Omicron deaths.

But George says there’s been nil, so I’m going with that.

Story of O wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:51 pm It will eventually turn into a cold as viruses from previous pandemics have done, but i don’t think it is at that stage yet

Thanks mystic meg.