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Imagine if sun cream came out but you could still get sunburn if you stayed in the sun too long or went in the sea and it rubbed off, even if you’d put on two applications!
Don’t think many would use it, do you!

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:21 pm Pretty savage cold going around this year

To be fair to the loons,it’s not 250 cases yet, just the 10.

Raab was just f*cking his numbers up, you’ve probably heard about it in the MSM or on the twitter where everyone is abusing him for his mistake.

Jack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:16 pm Imagine if a new contraceptive vaccine came out, but you could still get pregnant, even if you had two doses!
Dont think many would use it, do you!

Why would there be a contraceptive vaccine? That doesn't make any sense.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:59 pm

Jack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:16 pm Imagine if a new contraceptive vaccine came out, but you could still get pregnant, even if you had two doses!
Dont think many would use it, do you!

Why would there be a contraceptive vaccine? That doesn't make any sense.

Contraception vax would never be produced as it doesn't affect men.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:26 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:21 pm Pretty savage cold going around this year

To be fair to the loons,it’s not 250 cases yet, just the 10.

Raab was just f*cking his numbers up, you’ve probably heard about it in the MSM or on the twitter where everyone is abusing him for his mistake.

Curriedcrap is desperate for people to start dying just to prove me wrong. Sad individual must try harder

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:59 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:26 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:21 pm Pretty savage cold going around this year

To be fair to the loons,it’s not 250 cases yet, just the 10.

Raab was just f*cking his numbers up, you’ve probably heard about it in the MSM or on the twitter where everyone is abusing him for his mistake.

Curriedcrap is desperate for people to start dying just to prove me wrong. Sad individual must try harder

Change that to “ desperate for bad news “. Despite our difference of opinion that was the wrong thing to say

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:16 pm

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:59 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:26 pm

To be fair to the loons,it’s not 250 cases yet, just the 10.

Raab was just f*cking his numbers up, you’ve probably heard about it in the MSM or on the twitter where everyone is abusing him for his mistake.

Curriedcrap is desperate for people to start dying just to prove me wrong. Sad individual must try harder

Change that to “ desperate for bad news “. Despite our difference of opinion that was the wrong thing to say

Oh, f*** off.

And yet more baffling decisions by Government. Red list gone . That was a pointless restriction anyway , but at least they kept it short. Still a requirement to test before entering the UK. Why ? What could anyone bring in that isn’t already here anyway. Utterly ridiculous.

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:39 pm And yet more baffling decisions by Government. Red list gone . That was a pointless restriction anyway , but at least they kept it short. Still a requirement to test before entering the UK. Why ? What could anyone bring in that isn’t already here anyway. Utterly ridiculous.

More disease? Would you invite someone infected with covid round for dinner?

We already are clown. The latest travel restrictions were to slow / stop the spread of a variant that was already here. It didn’t do either. You won’t know who you are inviting around for dinner because the symptoms are so slight. Pointless restrictions

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:06 pm We already are clown. The latest travel restrictions were to slow / stop the spread of a variant that was already here. It didn’t do either. You won’t know who you are inviting around for dinner because the symptoms are so slight. Pointless restrictions

So, should there be no restrictions at all? Are you saying we should return to normal and spread the infection as much as possible?

If so, this seems to fit with your obsession with reducing the human population.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:15 pm

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:39 pm And yet more baffling decisions by Government. Red list gone . That was a pointless restriction anyway , but at least they kept it short. Still a requirement to test before entering the UK. Why ? What could anyone bring in that isn’t already here anyway. Utterly ridiculous.

More disease? Would you invite someone infected with covid round for dinner?

That was fine when no one in your house had Covid, but now quite a few are infected what’s the point

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:19 pm

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:06 pm We already are clown. The latest travel restrictions were to slow / stop the spread of a variant that was already here. It didn’t do either. You won’t know who you are inviting around for dinner because the symptoms are so slight. Pointless restrictions

So, should there be no restrictions at all? Are you saying we should return to normal and spread the infection as much as possible?

If so, this seems to fit with your obsession with reducing the human population.

I am saying no restrictions , yes. We were promised last year that the vaccines were our route to gaining our freedoms. The sensible majority backed that all the way. We even backed boosters. If a vaccine evading variant appeared then , yes , a rethink would be necessary. We have been told from the outset by South African medical officers that this variant caused them no issues. They would not even had found it if it had not been for incidental testing on patients who were in hospital for other reasons. It was already here when we brought in our restrictions. They have not done anything to slow the variants progress and while they are arguing in parliament, it is already the dominant variant.
Travel restrictions / tests won’t stop this variant and therefore there is no other reason to keep them in place. They are to be reviewed in early January when I suspect they will be dropped. They should be now.
The Tories fear of making mistakes has led them to make more. I am embarrassed to admit to being a Tory voter.

If full vaccine passports come in, does anyone think they will ever go, even if Covid disappears?
It seems a good way of dividing people, and for government's to have more control
Once it happens, no government is going to give up that control, are they?

Story of O wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:30 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:15 pm

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:39 pm And yet more baffling decisions by Government. Red list gone . That was a pointless restriction anyway , but at least they kept it short. Still a requirement to test before entering the UK. Why ? What could anyone bring in that isn’t already here anyway. Utterly ridiculous.

More disease? Would you invite someone infected with covid round for dinner?

That was fine when no one in your house had Covid, but now quite a few are infected what’s the point

Not everyone is infected. If there's one thing I'm sure of, I've rather not have covid than have covid. You'd soon change your mind if a loved one was affected.

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:06 pm We already are clown. The latest travel restrictions were to slow / stop the spread of a variant that was already here. It didn’t do either. You won’t know who you are inviting around for dinner because the symptoms are so slight. Pointless restrictions

Imagine there's a new mutant strain of a disease thats already killed millions of people on the loose in a foreign country. You're saying DON'T stop people from that country travelling to our country?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:26 pm

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:06 pm We already are clown. The latest travel restrictions were to slow / stop the spread of a variant that was already here. It didn’t do either. You won’t know who you are inviting around for dinner because the symptoms are so slight. Pointless restrictions

Imagine there's a new mutant strain of a disease thats already killed millions of people on the loose in a foreign country. You're saying DON'T stop people from that country travelling to our country?

He says a lot very little means anything though !

George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:06 pm We already are clown. The latest travel restrictions were to slow / stop the spread of a variant that was already here. It didn’t do either. You won’t know who you are inviting around for dinner because the symptoms are so slight. Pointless restrictions

You keep saying that restrictions haven't slowed the spread, without any evidence and contrary to science and logic.

His brother will be pleased

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:46 pm

Jeremy... My hero

Wait, let me get this straight. Max and Ronnie are now on the side of the Tory government and not Jezza?

Are we all on acid?

Wrong. I wouldn’t be voting to enforce vaccinations on NHS staff.

I can’t answer about the acid but, that could well be correct.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:13 pm Wrong. I wouldn’t be voting to enforce vaccinations on NHS staff.

Me neither but if they don't want to get vaxxed they can't work in a hospital.

What if they get a dose of The Covids and pass because of it and their relatives try and sue the NHS for failing in their duty of care. Legal minefield best avoided the only winners are the lawyers.