Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Send them back or my best view is borrow a submarine or uboat and torpedo the lot

Seems to me that 'Migrants' are not the problem. They are people who want to work and earn a living (unlike many of the indigious population who have aspirations for wealth, expecting wealth as their entitlement but have no skills or talents or interests). Following the devastation of WW2 this country was desperate for migrants (from Commonwealth and other countries) to build infrastructure and serve for the social and economic good. Their work and input is still essential, an integral part of our society.
The current demonisation of channel crossing migrants is just the latest manifestation of the Enoch Powell mode with the added benefit of demonising the European Union.

I don’t really understand this argument. Of course they want to work. a) I would like to work in Australia but am not allowed because countries have things called borders and b) how many people is too many in this country and if we took in everyone that wants to work, what would the quality of life be like?. There is an infinite supply of people that would like to work here.

As I see it the main issue in the country is there’s too many people in relation to infrastructure/ services not having kept up. Just look around: hospitals & waiting lists, lack of dentists, roads are more clogged than they used to be, potholes, shortage of housing, young people struggle to get on the housing ladder, schools over-subscribed, prisons full, etc etc.

It’s about quality of life, and our quality of life has dropped as a result as per all the above. The influx of illegal migrants on boats, predominantly male, predominantly not qualified doctors/ dentists/ builders would be my guess, ain’t helping, but is costing us a significant sum of money and drags us down further.

I was brought up with the belief we look after our own first, if we have spare then fine & good to help others, and that logic not only applies to within the family, it applies to within the country too. Others may disagree, that’s fine, we are a free country and we can all have differing opinions, but from opinion polls I have seen, I suspect the majority think enough is enough with the illegal migrants, and are exasperated at the government’s repeated failure to deal with the issue.

P 8 - Article 19:

"The parties shall make arrangements for the United Kingdom to resettle a portion of Rwanda`s most vulnerable refugees in the United Kingdom, recognising both Parties commitment towards providing better international protection for refugees".

Does this mean that 200 asylumseekers will be send to Rwanda, and then 200 vulnerable refugees will come to the UK from Rwanda?

Absolutely crazy deal that's more expensive than keeping people here.

Can only see it stopped by doing something Trumpian.

882 arrived yesterday

Numbers this year are the highest ever

Great stuff for Sunak



https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2vv4j87n5wo

Seems to me that most of NW Europe have had their fill of migrants.
Brussels is an absolute shithole now, some cities in Germany are also heading that way.
Too many are young males that just hang about begging or stealing.
I was in Belgium last week watching the Euro elections, some real hostility brewing hence the increase in the right wing vote.

I wonder what happened in 2020 to cause such a huge leap?

Sir Keir’s new border security chief says his plans to “smash the gangs” won’t stop the boats and a deterrent like the Rwanda plan is required

Busting the gangs won’t stop boats, says border chief

https://www.thetimes.com/article/0a8102 ... c842307fac

one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:53 pm Seems to me that most of NW Europe have had their fill of migrants.

Had their fill? The issue hasn’t even started yet.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:12 pm 882 arrived yesterday

Numbers this year are the highest ever

Great stuff for Sunak



https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2vv4j87n5wo

Be good to get these asylum seekers processed and settled and in a position to take up employment to fill the huge manpower gaps in the economy.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:34 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:12 pm 882 arrived yesterday

Numbers this year are the highest ever

Great stuff for Sunak



https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2vv4j87n5wo

Be good to get these asylum seekers processed and settled and in a position to take up employment to fill the huge manpower gaps in the economy.

Yes I agree and also be a valuable member of all the Albanian drug gangs and human trafficking gangs

Surely if every boat was returned to France the gangs would be smashed immediately. No one’s going to fork out £2k to sit in a dingy that’s going to get them back to ‘square one’. Where that leaves things after I’m not sure but at least the dangerous crossings would reduce.

Maybe Sir Kier could get some resource to patrol the border from Brentford's stewards?

Interesting. The European Parliament has just endorsed the establishment of migrant processing centres in third countries (aka the Rwanda model).

For 326
Against 293
Abstain 17

The numbers of people currently trying to enter Europe, and the projections for future years, meant that something always had to give.

And yet this bumhole just gets handed a UK passport - no questions asked.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:47 pm And yet this bumhole just gets handed a UK passport - no questions asked.

He’s been here for a few years already on a skilled workers visa

Absolute shambles. Clueless.

Are you alright?

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:30 pm Absolute shambles. Clueless.

Even so they are better than the last lot of corrupt theives and nutjobs.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:33 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:30 pm Absolute shambles. Clueless.

Even so they are better than the last lot of corrupt theives and nutjobs.

Indeed. Short memories some people have and an even shorter vocabulary if you’re PrezBiz,

Nobody could really be angry about Paddington getting a passport could they? Couldn't exactly windrush him back to Peru

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:06 pm Nobody could really be angry about Paddington getting a passport could they? Couldn't exactly windrush him back to Peru

Its Mr Curry I'm more concerned about. How anyone can be so hostile toward such a loveable little bear is beyond me.

The argument that the “migrants take our jobs” does not bear out as migrants often end up doing the work that many shy away from such working in abattoirs or hand-picking crops. Also, migrants do not usually need weight loss jabs to get them back in the job market. That said, I do think that if people are here illegally and commit crimes, well, our prisons are full.