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Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:05 pm
by Mikero
Having seen some of the conference performances and listened to the discussion panels you can only come to the conclusion that, far from being a 'one nation' party, it is the "I'm all right Jack" party only out for its self and uncaring about the damage it will do to less well off communities by crashing out of Europe. They elected a fantasist and egotistical liar as leader not worrying about the damage he could do to the economy as long as he keeps them in power.

Interesting piece on Newsnight about where all the extra funding is going for high streets and other communitee projects, its largely going to to tory seats and seats they hope to win from Labour. No bias there then.

Mikero

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:27 pm
by Long slender neck
admin wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:51 pm Ok - are you saying you're not happy with Liz Truss and other well documented idiots such as Nicky Morgan / Matt Hancock who form part of cabinet. If so, why? They're promising to deliver Brexit...... even though they can't tell you how.
So you dont have any evidence to backup your claim?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:30 pm
by Admin
Are you a brexiter?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:33 pm
by Long slender neck
Irrelevant!

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:38 pm
by Admin
No it's not. You're helping me with my evidence.

Q1 - Are you a brexiter?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:13 pm
by Long slender neck
No good sniffing around for evidence after the fact.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:18 pm
by Admin
Disprove what I’ve said then. Are you a brexiter?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:22 pm
by Long slender neck
Looks like I won this argument.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:45 pm
by Admin
You can claim victory by disproving what i said. All you have to do is confirm you're a brexiter who's unhappy with Liz Truss, Nicky Morgan et al.

Regardless, you know as well as I do that there's plenty of Brexiters that are so obsessed by the concept of leaving the EU regardless of any negative consequences they're prepared to ignore (wilfully or otherwise) the fact that the government's cabinet contains ministers who can't or won't explain how we're leaving the EU in 29 days time.

Anyone brexiters about want to answer the question in the first line?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:03 pm
by Disoriented
Lester is a Brexiteer without any rational concrete reason why he should be.

Like every single one of the deluded.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:05 pm
by Long slender neck
If Brexiteers are happy with this lot then it is because what came previously failed them.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:43 pm
by Disoriented
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:05 pm If Brexiteers are happy with this lot then it is because what came previously failed them.
Explain how they have been ‘failed’ with specifics not rhetoric.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:25 pm
by Mikero
" with specifics "

That sounds a bit "experty" to me , you sould know that brexiteers, by their religion, will have nothing to do with experts and their facts.

Mikero

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:46 am
by Mick McQuaid
Our Prime Minister caught between a smirk and a squirm while the DUP loons were chanting 'no surrender' in support of him is one of my recent highlights.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:40 am
by ComeOnYouOs
Anyone seen the video on Twitter (and no doubt other places), showing Johnson walking down the line after his speech yesterday, shaking hands. He comes to two black fellas, and walls them by, before carrying on with the white people.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:48 am
by Long slender neck
They didnt offer their hands. Also, the white people being his Dad etc.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:01 am
by Still's Carenae
Mikero wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:05 pm Having seen some of the conference performances and listened to the discussion panels you can only come to the conclusion that, far from being a 'one nation' party, it is the "I'm all right Jack" party only out for its self and uncaring about the damage it will do to less well off communities by crashing out of Europe. They elected a fantasist and egotistical liar as leader not worrying about the damage he could do to the economy as long as he keeps them in power.

Interesting piece on Newsnight about where all the extra funding is going for high streets and other communitee projects, its largely going to to tory seats and seats they hope to win from Labour. No bias there then.

Mikero
Where are they building new hospitals?

According to Humphreys on his retirement,
the BBC is bias, why is not this piece bias?

Just so you know, I have no political view. But to me the BBC do have a bias, when they should be impartial.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:51 pm
by Max B Gold
Still's Carenae wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:01 am
Mikero wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:05 pm Having seen some of the conference performances and listened to the discussion panels you can only come to the conclusion that, far from being a 'one nation' party, it is the "I'm all right Jack" party only out for its self and uncaring about the damage it will do to less well off communities by crashing out of Europe. They elected a fantasist and egotistical liar as leader not worrying about the damage he could do to the economy as long as he keeps them in power.

Interesting piece on Newsnight about where all the extra funding is going for high streets and other communitee projects, its largely going to to tory seats and seats they hope to win from Labour. No bias there then.

Mikero
Where are they building new hospitals?

According to Humphreys on his retirement,
the BBC is bias, why is not this piece bias?

Just so you know, I have no political view. But to me the BBC do have a bias, when they should be impartial.
What do you mean by impartial?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:01 pm
by Disoriented
UpminsterO wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:13 pm What are the British even in Ireland - does not history demonstrate it was not their land or country - but the British have a habit of taking other places/ countries/ land and installing their flag and government

All this backstop etc is not about the majority of people that voted and the money being poured in to NI is not proportional to the place in terms of population numbers and relevance to the uk as a whole

The British government love taking anything and squeezing what they want

I work with a Indian women she tells me precisely what went on her country and what the British did. Same with Irish people I have known. The natives of Australia got a raw deal and of course with have so many other places where the British have interfered
Great to have a fellow patriot on the board.
👍

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:23 pm
by Clive Evans
UpminsterO:- As I am of about 95% Celtic decent, when are you English mongrels going to give me notice that you are going to vacate my Country and give me back my ancient heritage?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:46 pm
by Stowaway
Virtually every “Englishman” is English by birth only. Go back a couple of generations and we’re all immigrants. I’m from east London, yet examine my family tree and like most eastenders we’re a mix of Irish and/or Jewish descent.

As Bill Hicks said “I’m only American because my parents f****d here”.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:35 am
by Admin
Rory Stewart resigns from party and will stand down at next election.

Boris and Dom's purification process of the Tories takes another step towards completion.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:40 am
by BoniO
Stowaway wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:46 pm Virtually every “Englishman” is English by birth only. Go back a couple of generations and we’re all immigrants. I’m from east London, yet examine my family tree and like most eastenders we’re a mix of Irish and/or Jewish descent.

As Bill Hicks said “I’m only American because my parents f****d here”.
Steady on now. I'm sure all the right wing fruitcakes in the BNP, EDL, Britain First, and whatever other names they have these days, can trace their roots back to Saxon days! (better not mention that they were immigrants too....).

We're not called a "mongrel nation" for nothing. Nothing wrong with that in my book and totally expected for a sea-faring, island nation.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:44 am
by point nine one eight
admin wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:35 am Rory Stewart resigns from party and will stand down at next election.

Boris and Dom's purification process of the Tories takes another step towards completion.
Rory Stewart wont be missed, bit of a plonker in my book

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:45 am
by Max B Gold
point nine one eight wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:44 am
admin wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:35 am Rory Stewart resigns from party and will stand down at next election.

Boris and Dom's purification process of the Tories takes another step towards completion.
Rory Stewart wont be missed, bit of a plonker in my book
A plonker who at least valued democracy. Not like the dictator Johnson.