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Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:59 am They all do. Cheapening anti-Semitism to score political points against people they disagree with. It's beyond shameful.

So is your total disrespect for the Jewish community. You think you know better than them.

What a totally shameful attitude to have.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:34 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:15 pm He's an out of touch idiot. Don't see many people claiming otherwise.

That’s no way to talk about caca

Ban.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:38 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:59 am They all do. Cheapening anti-Semitism to score political points against people they disagree with. It's beyond shameful.

So is your total disrespect for the Jewish community. You think you know better than them.

What a totally shameful attitude to have.

Weirdly sweeping statement. I have Jewish friends who feel exactly the same. Are you going to tell them they're wrong and you know better than them? Shameful if so.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:38 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:59 am They all do. Cheapening anti-Semitism to score political points against people they disagree with. It's beyond shameful.

So is your total disrespect for the Jewish community. You think you know better than them.

What a totally shameful attitude to have.

Are Jewish Voices for Labour not part of the Jewish community? Do you know better than them?

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:36 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:38 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:59 am They all do. Cheapening anti-Semitism to score political points against people they disagree with. It's beyond shameful.

So is your total disrespect for the Jewish community. You think you know better than them.

What a totally shameful attitude to have.

Are Jewish Voices for Labour not part of the Jewish community? Do you know better than them?

So some prepared to tolerate this makes it Ok

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:32 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:38 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:59 am They all do. Cheapening anti-Semitism to score political points against people they disagree with. It's beyond shameful.

So is your total disrespect for the Jewish community. You think you know better than them.

What a totally shameful attitude to have.

Weirdly sweeping statement. I have Jewish friends who feel exactly the same. Are you going to tell them they're wrong and you know better than them? Shameful if so.

What a bizarre post. See Prez Biz’s comment above.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:31 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:36 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:38 pm

So is your total disrespect for the Jewish community. You think you know better than them.

What a totally shameful attitude to have.

Are Jewish Voices for Labour not part of the Jewish community? Do you know better than them?

So some prepared to tolerate this makes it Ok

See above. They’re not ‘tolerating’ it. They’re saying it’s a load of politically motivated bullshit.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:17 am

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:32 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:38 pm

So is your total disrespect for the Jewish community. You think you know better than them.

What a totally shameful attitude to have.

Weirdly sweeping statement. I have Jewish friends who feel exactly the same. Are you going to tell them they're wrong and you know better than them? Shameful if so.

What a bizarre post. See Prez Biz’s comment above.

Oh dear. So you're both slipping into 'bad Jews' territory here, which as everyone knows is an anti-Semitic trope that's as old as the hills. Worrying.

Do something about it then.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:46 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:17 am

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:32 pm

Weirdly sweeping statement. I have Jewish friends who feel exactly the same. Are you going to tell them they're wrong and you know better than them? Shameful if so.

What a bizarre post. See Prez Biz’s comment above.

Oh dear. So you're both slipping into 'bad Jews' territory here, which as everyone knows is an anti-Semitic trope that's as old as the hills. Worrying.

Puzzling. Your friends can think what they like but my Jewish friends and colleagues are anything but happy with the anti-semitic ‘strategy’ adopted by the Labour Party.

Are THEY wrong?

Are the Jewish Leadership Council and the Jewish Labour Movement and other organisations wrong too with their feelings?

You have slipped into the old cliche of equating genuine complaints with a conspiracy theory, in this case, ‘Corbyn out’. That is the true ‘oh dear’ moment in this whole debate, the thinking that they all must want Corbyn out so their feelings on anti-semitism must be invalid.

Very muddled thinking and your counter suggestion of any objections slipping into any ‘territory’, as you so quaintly put it, is very worrying.

This issue is not going away and Labour’s insistence on papering over the cracks is not only shameful, but a vote-losing inevitability - wrong on one level and stupid on another.

Yes, they are wrong. See above.

Jewish Labour movement are an organization loyal to Israel, and only Israel

Some facts : JLM was disbanded, but reformed in 2015, just as Palestinian supporter Jerremy Corbyn was elected Labour leader.....coincidence eh?

You dont have to be a LabourParty member to join JLM, and you dont have to be Jewish, and many are not either

JLM is a Zionist organization, against Palestinian rights.

there are many organizations in the UK that are working for Zionist Israel, funded by very rich patrons

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:50 am Jewish Labour movement are an organization loyal to Israel, and only Israel

Some facts : JLM was disbanded, but reformed in 2015, just as Palestinian supporter Jerremy Corbyn was elected Labour leader.....coincidence eh?

You dont have to be a LabourParty member to join JLM, and you dont have to be Jewish, and many are not either

JLM is a Zionist organization, against Palestinian rights.

there are many organizations in the UK that are working for Zionist Israel, funded by very rich patrons

What a shame you didn’t get the mod gig.

So Muslim s in Britain supporting palestian is not a conspiracy but Jews supporting Israel is

Norlington wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:31 pm So Muslim s in Britain supporting palestian is not a conspiracy but Jews supporting Israel is

Neither are conspiracies. They are political positions. Either community is free to hold them.

What is not acceptable is the smearing of people who support Palestinian human rights as Anti-Semites.

Max so it's o k to de-select people because they support Israel imagine the outcry if the same happens to Palestinian supports

They’re not being deselected because they support Israel. They’ve supported Israel their entire political careers.

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:47 pm They’re not being deselected because they support Israel. They’ve supported Israel their entire political careers.

Indeed.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:51 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:47 pm They’re not being deselected because they support Israel. They’ve supported Israel their entire political careers.

Indeed.

But Corbyn ain’t been their boss for their entire political career.

So you’re suggesting Corbyn is behind their deselection?

I see that the donations to the party have slumped by over £7m in the last financial year. Funny we were talking about membership numbers just recently and now the reality is here, that’s a massive drop in funding from the grassroots. The accounts also show that they have and or are selling property to make up the shortfall, make of that what you will.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:50 am Jewish Labour movement are an organization loyal to Israel, and only Israel

Some facts : JLM was disbanded, but reformed in 2015, just as Palestinian supporter Jerremy Corbyn was elected Labour leader.....coincidence eh?

You dont have to be a LabourParty member to join JLM, and you dont have to be Jewish, and many are not either

JLM is a Zionist organization, against Palestinian rights.

there are many organizations in the UK that are working for Zionist Israel, funded by very rich patrons

Why do you care about Israel/Palestine?

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:18 am So you’re suggesting Corbyn is behind their deselection?

Of course not, it’s just coincidence.

The smears against Jezza are not coincidental at all, they're entirely deliberate.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:19 pm The smears against Jezza are not coincidental at all, they're entirely deliberate.

Of course they are.