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Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:53 pm
by tuffers#1
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:13 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:44 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:23 pm
Anyone remember the time we sold Darren Purse who went on to play in the Premiership and our numb nuts fans said what a load of sh*t he was?
Or the time we sold Nicky Shorey, who went on to play in the premiership and for England and our numb nuts fans said what a load of sh*t he was?
Ok , fair enough you’ve mentioned two . How many players did our fans call it right ?. For every Darren Purse and Nicky Story there’s probably five that went straight down the pan.
Ok, name the five.
Dalby , Gorman , Marks, Dancing Boy , Haleybone. Can you name those that didnt rate Shorey & Purse ? Most fans i knew thought they had potential .
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:56 pm
by gshaw
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:21 pm
RW consistently picked him - in fact, wasn't it RW who stuck him back in his preferred CDM position rather than the CAM role he isn't suited for?
Hector has just turned 21 and is still developing. He was never going to be the main man.
Look at the other two options he had... Coleman and Brown who were even further away from looking first team ready.
You hit the nail on the head in the last paragraph, a youth player was being asked to carry the midfield. Just shows how poorly we recruited in that area in terms of squad balance.
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:21 pm
by Max Fowler
gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:56 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:21 pm
RW consistently picked him - in fact, wasn't it RW who stuck him back in his preferred CDM position rather than the CAM role he isn't suited for?
Hector has just turned 21 and is still developing. He was never going to be the main man.
Look at the other two options he had... Coleman and Brown who were even further away from looking first team ready.
You hit the nail on the head in the last paragraph, a youth player was being asked to carry the midfield. Just shows how poorly we recruited in that area in terms of squad balance.
Fair point on Colebrown, Although he could have put Pratley there if he didn’t rate Hector.
We’re in agreement that the problem wasn’t Hector, it was Hector being asked to do more than he was ready to do just yet. That won’t be the case at Posh,
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:22 pm
by Max Fowler
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:13 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:44 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:23 pm
Anyone remember the time we sold Darren Purse who went on to play in the Premiership and our numb nuts fans said what a load of sh*t he was?
Or the time we sold Nicky Shorey, who went on to play in the premiership and for England and our numb nuts fans said what a load of sh*t he was?
Ok , fair enough you’ve mentioned two . How many players did our fans call it right ?. For every Darren Purse and Nicky Story there’s probably five that went straight down the pan.
Ok, name the five.
Still waiting on one of the five.
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:08 pm
by Orient till I die M
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:16 am
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:19 pm
I mean Peterborough have signed 100s of players from the lower leagues that end up back in the lower leagues so I don’t see this one being any different.
Have also received 13.5 Million in the last 5 years as players have moved onto better things.
Win win then ? If he’s sh*t for them which he will be as he can’t score can’t assist can’t head the ball and always late into tackles then it’s a good sell , if he’s as good as you think he is will get a nice amount on the sell on. What you moaning about ?
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:14 pm
by Max B Gold
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:08 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:16 am
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:19 pm
I mean Peterborough have signed 100s of players from the lower leagues that end up back in the lower leagues so I don’t see this one being any different.
Have also received 13.5 Million in the last 5 years as players have moved onto better things.
Win win then ? If he’s sh*t for them which he will be as he can’t score can’t assist can’t head the ball and always late into tackles then it’s a good sell , if he’s as good as you think he is will get a nice amount on the sell on. What you moaning about ?
Some good coaching tips in there for the new club to work on.
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:19 pm
by tuffers#1
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:22 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:13 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:44 pm
Ok , fair enough you’ve mentioned two . How many players did our fans call it right ?. For every Darren Purse and Nicky Story there’s probably five that went straight down the pan.
Ok, name the five.
Still waiting on one of the five.
ive named 5 & asked you to name people who didnt rate shorey & Purse . A bit of arrogant Ignorance on your part Frankfurter !
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:28 pm
by Orient till I die M
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:14 pm
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:08 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:16 am
Have also received 13.5 Million in the last 5 years as players have moved onto better things.
Win win then ? If he’s sh*t for them which he will be as he can’t score can’t assist can’t head the ball and always late into tackles then it’s a good sell , if he’s as good as you think he is will get a nice amount on the sell on. What you moaning about ?
Some good coaching tips in there for the new club to work on.
Am I wrong or ?
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:44 pm
by Max B Gold
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:28 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:14 pm
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:08 pm
Win win then ? If he’s sh*t for them which he will be as he can’t score can’t assist can’t head the ball and always late into tackles then it’s a good sell , if he’s as good as you think he is will get a nice amount on the sell on. What you moaning about ?
Some good coaching tips in there for the new club to work on.
Am I wrong or ?
Perhaps bitter.
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:55 pm
by Orient till I die M
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:44 pm
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:28 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:14 pm
Some good coaching tips in there for the new club to work on.
Am I wrong or ?
Perhaps bitter.
Bitter
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:07 pm
by Max Fowler
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:08 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:16 am
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:19 pm
I mean Peterborough have signed 100s of players from the lower leagues that end up back in the lower leagues so I don’t see this one being any different.
Have also received 13.5 Million in the last 5 years as players have moved onto better things.
Win win then ? If he’s sh*t for them which he will be as he can’t score can’t assist can’t head the ball and always late into tackles then it’s a good sell , if he’s as good as you think he is will get a nice amount on the sell on. What you moaning about ?
Is there a sell on?
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:29 pm
by Orient till I die M
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:07 pm
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:08 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:16 am
Have also received 13.5 Million in the last 5 years as players have moved onto better things.
Win win then ? If he’s sh*t for them which he will be as he can’t score can’t assist can’t head the ball and always late into tackles then it’s a good sell , if he’s as good as you think he is will get a nice amount on the sell on. What you moaning about ?
Is there a sell on?
Who cares he be playing for Dagenham in no time, you probably was saying the same thing when we sold Tristan Abrahams and Sam Dalby
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:51 pm
by Max Fowler
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:29 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:07 pm
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:08 pm
Win win then ? If he’s sh*t for them which he will be as he can’t score can’t assist can’t head the ball and always late into tackles then it’s a good sell , if he’s as good as you think he is will get a nice amount on the sell on. What you moaning about ?
Is there a sell on?
Who cares he be playing for Dagenham in no time, you probably was saying the same thing when we sold Tristan Abrahams and Sam Dalby
Didn’t think much of Abrahams. I did think Dalby was a prospect but that was different - he was 17 and played just half a dozen games. Kyp has a couple of seasons under his belt now.
Re: Hector
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:59 pm
by Orient till I die M
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:51 pm
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:29 pm
Who cares he be playing for Dagenham in no time, you probably was saying the same thing when we sold Tristan Abrahams and Sam Dalby
Didn’t think much of Abrahams. I did think Dalby was a prospect but that was different - he was 17 and played just half a dozen games. Kyp has a couple of seasons under his belt now.
Will we miss him next season ? No chance we finished mid table in league 2. We need Dawson/vincelot type midfielders to get us up.
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:56 am
by tuffers#1
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:59 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:51 pm
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:29 pm
Who cares he be playing for Dagenham in no time, you probably was saying the same thing when we sold Tristan Abrahams and Sam Dalby
Didn’t think much of Abrahams. I did think Dalby was a prospect but that was different - he was 17 and played just half a dozen games. Kyp has a couple of seasons under his belt now.
Will we miss him next season ? No chance we finished mid table in league 2. We need Dawson/vincelot type midfielders to get us up.
Neither of those got us up !!
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:17 am
by B.whitehouse+10more
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:59 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:51 pm
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:29 pm
Who cares he be playing for Dagenham in no time, you probably was saying the same thing when we sold Tristan Abrahams and Sam Dalby
Didn’t think much of Abrahams. I did think Dalby was a prospect but that was different - he was 17 and played just half a dozen games. Kyp has a couple of seasons under his belt now.
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Will we miss him next season ? No chance we finished mid table in league 2. We need Dawson/vincelot type midfielders to get us up.
Dawson and Vincelot never got us up, Clay did
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:20 am
by Top of the JES
We don't need a Dawson or Vincelot. We need a creative midfielder with an eye for goal to compliment what we have. If we are after Moncur he is a deadball specialist who can pass the ball...............something we haven't had for a few seasons.
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:25 am
by Story of O
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:56 am
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:59 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:51 pm
Didn’t think much of Abrahams. I did think Dalby was a prospect but that was different - he was 17 and played just half a dozen games. Kyp has a couple of seasons under his belt now.
Will we miss him next season ? No chance we finished mid table in league 2. We need Dawson/vincelot type midfielders to get us up.
Neither of those got us up !!
Peter Kitchen never got us up, but I would not mind his type here
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:28 am
by tuffers#1
Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:25 am
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:56 am
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:59 pm
Will we miss him next season ? No chance we finished mid table in league 2. We need Dawson/vincelot type midfielders to get us up.
Neither of those got us up !!
Peter Kitchen never got us up, but I would not mind his type here
What as a ball winning tough tackling midfielder ? Off ya rocker .
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:44 am
by Max Fowler
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:20 am
We don't need a Dawson or Vincelot. We need a creative midfielder with an eye for goal to compliment what we have. If we are after Moncur he is a deadball specialist who can pass the ball...............something we haven't had for a few seasons.
How are you ling up the midfield 3 then?
RW has said he wants the 1 CDM holding/picking the ball up and moving it on, and of the 2 ahead of him, 1 to have the energy to get up and down and 1 with the flair.
We have Pratley and Clay for the energy role, we have Smyth (and Young) as the flair player, and we have Coleman and Brown holding. I'd say the CDM role is the most crucial to replace.
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:03 am
by Holybourne Identity
I like Hector, he was improving. If it had been £30k transfer fee I'd have been disappointed to see him move on. £300k plus 20% sell-on is very good and can be used best where RW/ML see fit.
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:18 am
by Chief crazy horse
Hopefully just RW....
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:24 am
by Max Fowler
Sam Ling resigns from Dagenham for £200k to slot in as our new CDM.
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:29 am
by Give it to Jabo
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:59 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:51 pm
Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:29 pm
Who cares he be playing for Dagenham in no time, you probably was saying the same thing when we sold Tristan Abrahams and Sam Dalby
Didn’t think much of Abrahams. I did think Dalby was a prospect but that was different - he was 17 and played just half a dozen games. Kyp has a couple of seasons under his belt now.
Will we miss him next season ? No chance we finished mid table in league 2. We need Dawson/vincelot type midfielders to get us up.
If only.....
Re: Hector
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:06 am
by Orient till I die M
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:20 am
We don't need a Dawson or Vincelot. We need a creative midfielder with an eye for goal to compliment what we have. If we are after Moncur he is a deadball specialist who can pass the ball...............something we haven't had for a few seasons.
You couldn’t of been a fan when they played.
