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Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 3:52 pm
by Max B Gold
spen666 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:55 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 1:47 pm Yeah, yeah, we all know about innocent before being proven guilty, but people also have their own personal opinions. ...
Was she not "proven guilty" in the Iranian courts?
Why else would she have got 6 years in the pokey?

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:15 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 3:52 pm
spen666 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:55 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 1:47 pm Yeah, yeah, we all know about innocent before being proven guilty, but people also have their own personal opinions. ...
Was she not "proven guilty" in the Iranian courts?
Why else would she have got 6 years in the pokey?
Giusepie was proven Guilty in UK courts, are you saying the courts there are less corrupt than those here ?

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:51 pm
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:15 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 3:52 pm
spen666 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:55 pm

Was she not "proven guilty" in the Iranian courts?
Why else would she have got 6 years in the pokey?
Giusepie was proven Guilty in UK courts, are you saying the courts there are less corrupt than those here ?
No.

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:00 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:51 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:15 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 3:52 pm

Why else would she have got 6 years in the pokey?
Giusepie was proven Guilty in UK courts, are you saying the courts there are less corrupt than those here ?
No.
Are you sure ? Nazanin is inside for six years over there , "why would she have got 6 years in the pokey , "Giusepie was innocent " yet also spent 6 years in the pokey . you made both those statements .

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:02 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 10:47 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:49 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:35 pm

Do you have proof she wasn't?
Innocent until proven guilty in a
Court of law tried by the public
Means the defendant doesnt have
to prove a case of Innocence .

Ball is firmly back in your part of the
Court wee laddie
Not really.

You're not even asking the right questions.

Giuseppe was innocent.
See

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:03 pm
by spen666
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:00 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:51 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:15 pm

Giusepie was proven Guilty in UK courts, are you saying the courts there are less corrupt than those here ?
No.
Are you sure ? Nazanin is inside for six years over there ....
I'm pretty sure she is not inside for six years over there, and is currently free and living in the UK

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:10 pm
by tuffers#1
spen666 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:03 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:00 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:51 pm

No.
Are you sure ? Nazanin is inside for six years over there ....
I'm pretty sure she is not inside for six years over there, and is currently free and living in the UK
Yes a present instead of past tense usage , now can max come back with proof of her spying ?

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:13 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:51 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:15 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 3:52 pm

Why else would she have got 6 years in the pokey?
Giusepie was proven Guilty in UK courts, are you saying the courts there are less corrupt than those here ?
No.
Are you sure ? Nazanin was inside for six years over there , "why would she have got 6 years in the pokey , "Giusepie was innocent " yet also spent 6 years in the pokey . you made both those statements .

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:14 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 10:47 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:49 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:35 pm

Do you have proof she wasn't?
Innocent until proven guilty in a
Court of law tried by the public
Means the defendant doesnt have
to prove a case of Innocence .

Ball is firmly back in your part of the
Court wee laddie
Not really.

You're not even asking the right questions.

Giuseppe was innocent.
See

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:32 pm
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:10 pm
spen666 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:03 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:00 pm

Are you sure ? Nazanin is inside for six years over there ....
I'm pretty sure she is not inside for six years over there, and is currently free and living in the UK
Yes a present instead of past tense usage , now can max come back with proof of her spying ?
What more proof do you need? She got the jail for it.

And I'm highly suspicious of the ongoing news management of the situation. Including a nice easy ride interview on the BBC with the normally terrier like Emma Barnett.

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:35 pm
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:13 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:51 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:15 pm

Giusepie was proven Guilty in UK courts, are you saying the courts there are less corrupt than those here ?
No.
Are you sure ? Nazanin was inside for six years over there , "why would she have got 6 years in the pokey , "Giusepie was innocent " yet also spent 6 years in the pokey . you made both those statements .
Even corrupt courts get it right sometimes.

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:14 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:35 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:13 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:51 pm

No.
Are you sure ? Nazanin was inside for six years over there , "why would she have got 6 years in the pokey , "Giusepie was innocent " yet also spent 6 years in the pokey . you made both those statements .
Even corrupt courts get it right sometimes.
Courts with A Jury ?

You really seem to be struggling to provide evidence
That she was a Spy as you have clearly stated she was
A Spy

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:29 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:32 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:10 pm
spen666 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:03 pm
I'm pretty sure she is not inside for six years over there, and is currently free and living in the UK
Yes a present instead of past tense usage , now can max come back with proof of her spying ?
What more proof do you need? She got the jail for it.

And I'm highly suspicious of the ongoing news management of the situation. Including a nice easy ride interview on the BBC with the normally terrier like Emma Barnett.
Judith Ward

Gerry Conlon
Paul Hill
Patrick Armstrong
Carole Richardson

Anne Maguire
Patrick Maguire
Patrick Maguire Junior
Vincent Maguire
Sean Smyth
Patrick O'Neil
Patrick Giusepie Conlon

Hugh Callaghan
Patrick Joseph Hill
Gerard Hunter
Richard McIlkenny
William Power
John Walker

Patrick Molloy,
James Robinson
Michael Hickey
Vincent Hickey

All Innocents who spent time in jail for
Things they didnt do .

Where a county used its Court system to
Falsely Jail them.

I can keep listing innocents who were wrongly jailed
But you are failing to produce 1 piece of single
evidence To prove she was a Spy .

A poor show from you

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:08 pm
by Dunners
Ignore Maxy, Tuffers. He just hates us Irish.

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:12 pm
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 9:29 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:32 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:10 pm

Yes a present instead of past tense usage , now can max come back with proof of her spying ?
What more proof do you need? She got the jail for it.

And I'm highly suspicious of the ongoing news management of the situation. Including a nice easy ride interview on the BBC with the normally terrier like Emma Barnett.
Judith Ward

Gerry Conlon
Paul Hill
Patrick Armstrong
Carole Richardson

Anne Maguire
Patrick Maguire
Patrick Maguire Junior
Vincent Maguire
Sean Smyth
Patrick O'Neil
Patrick Giusepie Conlon

Hugh Callaghan
Patrick Joseph Hill
Gerard Hunter
Richard McIlkenny
William Power
John Walker

Patrick Molloy,
James Robinson
Michael Hickey
Vincent Hickey

All Innocents who spent time in jail for
Things they didnt do .

Where a county used its Court system to
Falsely Jail them.

I can keep listing innocents who were wrongly jailed
But you are failing to produce 1 piece of single
evidence To prove she was a Spy .

A poor show from you
I don't need to prove she is a spy to smell a rat.

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:29 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 10:12 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 9:29 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:32 pm

What more proof do you need? She got the jail for it.

And I'm highly suspicious of the ongoing news management of the situation. Including a nice easy ride interview on the BBC with the normally terrier like Emma Barnett.
Judith Ward

Gerry Conlon
Paul Hill
Patrick Armstrong
Carole Richardson

Anne Maguire
Patrick Maguire
Patrick Maguire Junior
Vincent Maguire
Sean Smyth
Patrick O'Neil
Patrick Giusepie Conlon

Hugh Callaghan
Patrick Joseph Hill
Gerard Hunter
Richard McIlkenny
William Power
John Walker

Patrick Molloy,
James Robinson
Michael Hickey
Vincent Hickey

All Innocents who spent time in jail for
Things they didnt do .

Where a county used its Court system to
Falsely Jail them.

I can keep listing innocents who were wrongly jailed
But you are failing to produce 1 piece of single
evidence To prove she was a Spy .

A poor show from you
I don't need to prove she is a spy to smell a rat.
The Rat was refusing to Repay an outstanding debt belonging to the UK !

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:32 pm
by tuffers#1
Dunners wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 10:08 pm Ignore Maxy, Tuffers. He just hates us Irish.
I Ignore nobody ,if they make a definitive statement yet fail to back it up with proof .
We may as well invite Thor back .

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:16 am
by Dunners
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 10:12 pm
I don't need to prove she is a spy to smell a rat.
Wait, are you and I on the same page here?

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:11 am
by tuffers#1
Dunners wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:16 am
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 10:12 pm
I don't need to prove she is a spy to smell a rat.
Wait, are you and I on the same page here?
Im not stating she was/is a spy .

Its possible, however we kniw
The claim for the money being repaid
had arisen again & they then jailed people
To try to force repayment .

The debt is repaid & most who were held have been released . There is NO PROOF as of yet that
Any of the Jailed were spies .although this could change
When the govt ( at a point in time) release news she or others were .

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:18 am
by Max B Gold
:clown
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:11 am
Dunners wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:16 am
Max B Gold wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 10:12 pm
I don't need to prove she is a spy to smell a rat.
Wait, are you and I on the same page here?
Im not stating she was/is a spy .

Its possible, however we kniw
The claim for the money being repaid
had arisen again & they then jailed people
To try to force repayment .

The debt is repaid & most who were held have been released . There is NO PROOF as of yet that
Any of the Jailed were spies .although this could change
When the govt ( at a point in time) release news she or others were .
Good to see you have come round to our way of thinking. Even if you did take your time.

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:51 am
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:18 am :clown
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:11 am
Dunners wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:16 am

Wait, are you and I on the same page here?
Im not stating she was/is a spy .

Its possible, however we kniw
The claim for the money being repaid
had arisen again & they then jailed people
To try to force repayment .

The debt is repaid & most who were held have been released . There is NO PROOF as of yet that
Any of the Jailed were spies .although this could change
When the govt ( at a point in time) release news she or others were .
Good to see you have come round to our way of thinking. Even if you did take your time.
I am equally as Open to her being used as an innocent cog in a much bigger Political picture as Giusepie & others barr four were, those four were used to appease failure in Justice in general .
So.I think im far away from coming round to what you think

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:02 pm
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:51 am
Max B Gold wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:18 am :clown
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:11 am

Im not stating she was/is a spy .

Its possible, however we kniw
The claim for the money being repaid
had arisen again & they then jailed people
To try to force repayment .

The debt is repaid & most who were held have been released . There is NO PROOF as of yet that
Any of the Jailed were spies .although this could change
When the govt ( at a point in time) release news she or others were .
Good to see you have come round to our way of thinking. Even if you did take your time.
I am equally as Open to her being used as an innocent cog in a much bigger Political picture as Giusepie & others barr four were, those four were used to appease failure in Justice in general .
So.I think im far away from coming round to what you think
So you're ruling out her being a spy then?

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 2:54 pm
by PutneyO
BTW, her name is worth 53 points in Scrabble

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:27 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 12:02 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:51 am
Max B Gold wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:18 am :clown

Good to see you have come round to our way of thinking. Even if you did take your time.
I am equally as Open to her being used as an innocent cog in a much bigger Political picture as Giusepie & others barr four were, those four were used to appease failure in Justice in general .
So.I think im far away from coming round to what you think
So you're ruling out her being a spy then?
Nope ,I'm ruling you have NO PROOF she was :D

Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:53 pm
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 4:27 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 12:02 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:51 am

I am equally as Open to her being used as an innocent cog in a much bigger Political picture as Giusepie & others barr four were, those four were used to appease failure in Justice in general .
So.I think im far away from coming round to what you think
So you're ruling out her being a spy then?
Nope ,I'm ruling you have NO PROOF she was :D
So after ruining the internet you now agree with me. FFS!!