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Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:02 pm
by tuffers#1
EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:44 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:13 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:09 pm
Realistically, I don't see how a club of our size could do much better. 3 promotions, several play off place finishes, has a good reputation in the lower leagues. After all the whining about our previous two managers not being experienced enough, it'd be odd to the extreme to complain about appointing Tisdale.
I wouldnt say there was a majority of fans clamouring for Jobi not to get the gig
A samll band did not want him at the club
1 can only surmise as to why .
Tisdale was a Disaster at Bristol Rovers
Relegated MK dons from L1 to L2
Why should people not fear he could relegate us ?
He might be succesful he might not be .
Personally would rather Jobi got the job .
Tisdale wasn't at Bristol Rovers that long, manager before him was a disaster, manager after him a disaster, that record points more to the club than the succession of managers in my book.
Yes fair point re MK Dons relegation, albeit Tisdale left them in the November of that season having got them promoted in the first place.
Still comes back to my view that if we appoint a manager who has some success on his CV at the level we are at, he has already proved he has what it takes to get a club promoted, in his case three times, twice out of L2 with different clubs. It doesn't guarantee success, but given the succession of inexperienced managers we've had who haven't delivered, I know who I think is the better bet, including Jobi, who signed out with four straight defeats where we conceded twelve goals
I personally would have had Jobi
Ex premier league player a vast network of players .
Intelligence . Never given the opportunity with new players ..
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:05 pm
by tuffers#1
Mr. Peanutbutter wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 1:14 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:13 pm
Tisdale was a Disaster at Bristol Rovers
Bristol Rovers were a disaster, they finished bottom of L1, 10 points off safety. Tisdale won more games than Barton or Garner and left Bristol Rovers outside of the relegation zone. In context, hardly points to Tisdale being a disaster, rather a victim of circumstance.
Some of the takes here are incredible.
I dont really care .
Jobi McAnuff should have been givent the job
End of story .
Owners bottled it because ST holders threatened to not buy season tickets.
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:06 pm
by tuffers#1
BigDaddyO wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:49 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:13 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:09 pm
Realistically, I don't see how a club of our size could do much better. 3 promotions, several play off place finishes, has a good reputation in the lower leagues. After all the whining about our previous two managers not being experienced enough, it'd be odd to the extreme to complain about appointing Tisdale.
I wouldnt say there was a majority of fans clamouring for Jobi not to get the gig
A samll band did not want him at the club
1 can only surmise as to why .
Tisdale was a Disaster at Bristol Rovers
Relegated MK dons from L1 to L2
Why should people not fear he could relegate us ?
He might be succesful he might not be .
Personally would rather Jobi got the job .
'Tisdale was a Disaster at Bristol Rovers' - do you know anything about the situation at Bristol Rovers, or did you just pull up Tisdale's wiki page and start assuming things?
The club were in turmoil and Tis did better than predecessor or successor.
'Relegated MK dons from L1 to L2' - I think you're just flat out incorrect here. He got them promoted and departed in November, months and months before they were relegated, but fine?
'A samll band did not want him at the club' - inexperience as a manager aside, I think 99% of Os fans think a lot of Jobi and wish him only the best. Personally he's one of my favourite Os players of all time, but I thought he was only ok as manager, after some shaky/unambitious appointments I'm pleased we didn't go out on a limb again with Jobi, but wish him all the best.
You seem to take perverse joy from implying everyone at the club is racist, a bizarre hill to die on.
Who cares about a situation somewhere
Everyone goes through them
Good managers make things work
Bad ones dont .
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:10 pm
by faith1234
I would be happy with tisdale or kenny but it looks like it’s tisdale
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:11 pm
by tuffers#1
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:52 pm
I can't be arsed to go back that far but I wonder if the same people complaining about this potential appointment were whining about Edinburgh when he came in. Had more conspicuous failures and less successes in his CV than Tisdale does at this point.
You really should go that far back to see who was moaning about JE .
There werent to many saying i guarantee hed have us promoted in his 1st full season
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:17 pm
by Still wrong
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 9:55 am
Didnt last long at Bristol Rovers who finished bottom of the table ☹ hopefully if its him he will do better here
None too impressed if it’s Tisdale.
He has been hopeless in his last two jobs.
The football he plays is mind numbing boring.
They would have been better giving the job to Jobi and Slade.
Really thought it was going to be Jackett after last night’s “ news”
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:22 pm
by Still wrong
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:32 pm
by tuffers#1
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:17 pm
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 9:55 am
Didnt last long at Bristol Rovers who finished bottom of the table ☹ hopefully if its him he will do better here
None too impressed if it’s Tisdale.
He has been hopeless in his last two jobs.
The football he plays is mind numbing boring.
They would have been better giving the job to Jobi and Slade.
Really thought it was going to be Jackett after last night’s “ news”
Jobi didnt need Slade . RE never had a mentor .
Stop with the racism !! A Balck coach doesnt need a white bloke looking after him !
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:34 pm
by moonwalk19
Mr. Peanutbutter wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 1:14 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:13 pm
Tisdale was a Disaster at Bristol Rovers
Bristol Rovers were a disaster, they finished bottom of L1, 10 points off safety. Tisdale won more games than Barton or Garner and left Bristol Rovers outside of the relegation zone. In context, hardly points to Tisdale being a disaster, rather a victim of circumstance.
Some of the takes here are incredible.
19 games at Bristol Rov WOn 5 Drawn 3 Lost 11 is uninspiring that’s a win ratio of about 26% . Not for me!
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:35 pm
by cockhat
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:17 pm
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 9:55 am
Didnt last long at Bristol Rovers who finished bottom of the table ☹ hopefully if its him he will do better here
None too impressed if it’s Tisdale.
He has been hopeless in his last two jobs.
The football he plays is mind numbing boring.
They would have been better giving the job to Jobi and Slade.
Really thought it was going to be Jackett after last night’s “ news”
Bullshit, you said Calderwood!
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:36 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:37 pm
by Still wrong
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:17 pm
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 9:55 am
Didnt last long at Bristol Rovers who finished bottom of the table ☹ hopefully if its him he will do better here
None too impressed if it’s Tisdale.
He has been hopeless in his last two jobs.
The football he plays is mind numbing boring.
They would have been better giving the job to Jobi and Slade.
Really thought it was going to be Jackett after last night’s “ news”
Jobi didnt need Slade . RE never had a mentor .
Stop with the racism !! A Balck coach doesnt need a white bloke looking after him !
You really are a idiot.
Do not accuse me of racism again if you know what’s good for you.
Now clear off.
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:38 pm
by moonwalk19
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:17 pm
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 9:55 am
Didnt last long at Bristol Rovers who finished bottom of the table ☹ hopefully if its him he will do better here
None too impressed if it’s Tisdale.
He has been hopeless in his last two jobs.
The football he plays is mind numbing boring.
They would have been better giving the job to Jobi and Slade.
Really thought it was going to be Jackett after last night’s “ news”
Jobi didnt need Slade . RE never had a mentor .
Stop with the racism !! A Balck coach doesnt need a white bloke looking after him !
Your the one bringing racism into the discussion
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:38 pm
by Still wrong
cockhat wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:35 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:17 pm
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 9:55 am
Didnt last long at Bristol Rovers who finished bottom of the table ☹ hopefully if its him he will do better here
None too impressed if it’s Tisdale.
He has been hopeless in his last two jobs.
The football he plays is mind numbing boring.
They would have been better giving the job to Jobi and Slade.
Really thought it was going to be Jackett after last night’s “ news”
Bullshit, you said Calderwood!
I said after last nights news you idiot.
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:44 pm
by moonwalk19
Very impressive what he did at Exeter and MK Dons.
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:01 pm
by cockhat
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:38 pm
cockhat wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:35 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:17 pm
None too impressed if it’s Tisdale.
He has been hopeless in his last two jobs.
The football he plays is mind numbing boring.
They would have been better giving the job to Jobi and Slade.
Really thought it was going to be Jackett after last night’s “ news”
Bullshit, you said Calderwood!
I said after last nights news you idiot.
An idiot I’m not!
For days you have been a
saying Calderwood would be announced tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow.....
As usual just wrong!
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:10 pm
by tuffers#1
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:37 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:17 pm
None too impressed if it’s Tisdale.
He has been hopeless in his last two jobs.
The football he plays is mind numbing boring.
They would have been better giving the job to Jobi and Slade.
Really thought it was going to be Jackett after last night’s “ news”
Jobi didnt need Slade . RE never had a mentor .
Stop with the racism !! A Balck coach doesnt need a white bloke looking after him !
You really are a idiot.
Do not accuse me of racism again if you know what’s good for you.
Now clear off.
You werrnt accused of racism
It is only your own conscience pushing that thought !
Stop spouting a Black coach/ manager needing a white bloke to hold his hand & you wont get offended .
Its quite simple
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:12 pm
by tuffers#1
moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:38 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:17 pm
None too impressed if it’s Tisdale.
He has been hopeless in his last two jobs.
The football he plays is mind numbing boring.
They would have been better giving the job to Jobi and Slade.
Really thought it was going to be Jackett after last night’s “ news”
Jobi didnt need Slade . RE never had a mentor .
Stop with the racism !! A Balck coach doesnt need a white bloke looking after him !
Your the one bringing racism into the discussion
Im the one pointing out a black coach doesnt need a white mentor .
Any Racism is in your head,
if what i write offends you tough .
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:15 pm
by Dohnut
Paul McGowan. CEO. 2020
“The problem with facts is choosing which to follow”
“Some facts are important whilst other detract and confuse”
Some of us understand this sort of stuff. Others haven’t a clue.
Clearly you along with PW haven’t got a clue and continue to demonstrate ignorance.
Whilst facts are important, it is nonsense to try and remember them all. Especially those you can quickly look up should the need arise. It is vital in Senior Management to differentiate between those facts that are important and those that are not.
Can’t see the the forest for the trees is a simplified version of this.
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:18 pm
by Long slender neck
See, its just not important that he was already employed by a bigger club in a higher division.
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:33 pm
by BIGRON
Sky bet have Tisdale at 1/4 and have suspended betting on Jackett, make of that what you will
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 9:38 pm
by tuffers#1
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 8:33 pm
Sky bet have Tisdale at 1/4 and have suspended betting on Jackett, make of that what you will
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Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 9:45 pm
by KVN
Either Tisdale or Jacket would have been ok. To be honest i didnt think orient could afford Jacket. So good news either way.
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 9:53 pm
by BIGRON
Sorry tuffers i didn't see that post
Re: Tisdale
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 10:04 pm
by KVN
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:17 pm
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 9:55 am
Didnt last long at Bristol Rovers who finished bottom of the table ☹ hopefully if its him he will do better here
None too impressed if it’s Tisdale.
He has been hopeless in his last two jobs.
The football he plays is mind numbing boring.
They would have been better giving the job to Jobi and Slade.
Really thought it was going to be Jackett after last night’s “ news”
Jobi didnt need Slade . RE never had a mentor .
Stop with the racism !! A Balck coach doesnt need a white bloke looking after him !
It doesnt seem to be racism but a support mechanism for an inexperienced manager, much like the Jobi & Ling relationship.
Using racism is an ugly lazy attempt to try and win the arguement, Jobi bigest problem is that he is seen as an extention to Ross as another inexperienced manager under Martin Ling and the main objections seem to be Ling's level of control.
An experienced manager might not work but the definition of madness is doing the same and expecting different results.
saying Calderwood would be announced tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow..... 
