Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 9:36 pm Tuffs, what about the thousands of Irish soldiers that fought and died in both world wars? They volunteered to fight in both the conflicts.
What happened to the Irish people at the hands of the British government after the war was a terrible slur on Westminster.
The two wars were totally different in their origins. WW1 was fought because the super powers, at the time, Britain, Germany and the
Austro-Hungarian empire all got mixed up in it after the assassination of the Arch Duke Ferdinand, and their respective Royal Families
could not or would not stop the ensuing hell that resulted, all blood payed for by the common working man.

WW2 was simply to stop a crazed megalomaniac from taking over the world along with Japan.

Just as an aside, I wonder if coyos got a lazy lob on after doctoring HK's picture.

What about the Irish people who fought in the wars .
Good for them , honestly good for them

What about Soldier A & C who were let off yesterday for killing a man by shooting him in the back ?

What about soldier F on Bloody Sunday who is still awaiting
Trial & other soldiers awaiting trials ?

What about the same group of Paras who 6 months earlier were at the Ballymurphy massacre ?

Or the soldiers who fired the rubber bullets that killed
11 year old Francis Rowntree or 15 year old Seamus Duffy ?

How about the Soldier who shot 23 year old Aiden McAnespie , who was shot on his way to play Gaelic Football ?
The Same Soldier who was initially charged but then let off .

Is any of the " TOMMY MONEY going to them ?

It seems a stand against Bigotry only goes so far !

Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 9:36 pm Tuffs, what about the thousands of Irish soldiers that fought and died in both world wars? They volunteered to fight in both the conflicts.
What happened to the Irish people at the hands of the British government after the war was a terrible slur on Westminster.
The two wars were totally different in their origins. WW1 was fought because the super powers, at the time, Britain, Germany and the
Austro-Hungarian empire all got mixed up in it after the assassination of the Arch Duke Ferdinand, and their respective Royal Families
could not or would not stop the ensuing hell that resulted, all blood payed for by the common working man.

WW2 was simply to stop a crazed megalomaniac from taking over the world along with Japan.

Just as an aside, I wonder if coyos got a lazy lob on after doctoring HK's picture.

Your assessment of the cause of WW2 being down to a crazed megalomaniac needs further research.

You may well find the capitalist super powers were once again fighting each other, as in WW1, over the wealth that can be extracted through an Empire.

If the club wanted to appease Irish/Irish descent
fans they could do something Massive
for a woman from Belfast Who is still waiting
for Justice for Her Dead Child .

A Harry Kane picture with MyNoah Donohoe may
Bring attention to the Westminster Government whose
Law Enforcement in Ulster is dragging its heels
on this tragic story .

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishc ... -court.amp

https://m.facebook.com/groups/624202608 ... rer=search

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 8:17 pm people getting triggered by coyos mock up is hilarious

The worst one getting triggered here is Tuffers although I’m not sure that is the best description given the nature of his posts

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:54 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 8:17 pm people getting triggered by coyos mock up is hilarious

The worst one getting triggered here is Tuffers although I’m not sure that is the best description given the nature of his posts

You really are a stupid little boy arent you ,
Coyos post isnt " Triggering Me ".


The Shirt Sponsorship deal is .
And the bigoted comments from the like of you .
I expect nothing more from you .
I expect better.from the Club .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:07 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:54 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 8:17 pm people getting triggered by coyos mock up is hilarious

The worst one getting triggered here is Tuffers although I’m not sure that is the best description given the nature of his posts

You really are a stupid little boy arent you ,
Coyos post isnt " Triggering Me ".


The Shirt Sponsorship deal is .
And the bigoted comments from the like of you .
I expect nothing more from you .
I expect better.from the Club .

Its lot of money for a name on a shirt isnt it a worry when a player can sponser a professional team. When do they start owning clubs?

I think everyone should hold off buying the shirt to see what kind of season we are going to have first. Vote with your £££'s

I think the shirt looks great . Vertical stripe shows up better on the online shop

KVN wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 3:04 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:07 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:54 pm

The worst one getting triggered here is Tuffers although I’m not sure that is the best description given the nature of his posts

You really are a stupid little boy arent you ,
Coyos post isnt " Triggering Me ".


The Shirt Sponsorship deal is .
And the bigoted comments from the like of you .
I expect nothing more from you .
I expect better.from the Club .

Its lot of money for a name on a shirt isnt it a worry when a player can sponser a professional team. When do they start owning clubs?

They already do. See salford.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:07 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:54 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 8:17 pm people getting triggered by coyos mock up is hilarious

The worst one getting triggered here is Tuffers although I’m not sure that is the best description given the nature of his posts

You really are a stupid little boy arent you ,
Coyos post isnt " Triggering Me ".


The Shirt Sponsorship deal is .
And the bigoted comments from the like of you .
I expect nothing more from you .
I expect better.from the Club .

I meant by the whole subject not just the one post

Jack wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:01 pm The mocked up picture is satire. Just a parody of the clubs willingness to be associated with war and militarism.Not sure why it's upset so many.
And I thought Dream Team was bad, 2 years ago lol

This message board can feel like a minefield, sometimes it's like you're walking on on egg shells.

However, perhaps that photo should be removed

The New shirt sponsored by Harry, appears to have upset all the Arsenal supporters on here.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 6:20 pm Next year, as a change, Orient could have a swaztika on the shirt, opposite our badge.That would attract a few more people of a certain ilk.

Things are certainly going that way

As coyos posted this immediately after my post can i claim the credit for sending him over the edge?

Do find the fixation on some parts of the left with knocking veterans charities a bit odd. They are there for men and women who are typically short on options at a very young age and decide to sign up for something that offers some semblance of opportunity. They then get spat out the other side in their late 20s with physical and emotional trauma that they have to deal with for the rest of their lives.

Get the fanfare and flag waving around it is a bit nauseating but the beneficiaries are the exact sort of vulnerable young people, essentially victims of an unfair society that doesn't give a sh*t about them otherwise, that deserve support from the left.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 am

KVN wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 3:04 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:07 pm

You really are a stupid little boy arent you ,
Coyos post isnt " Triggering Me ".


The Shirt Sponsorship deal is .
And the bigoted comments from the like of you .
I expect nothing more from you .
I expect better.from the Club .

Its lot of money for a name on a shirt isnt it a worry when a player can sponser a professional team. When do they start owning clubs?

They already do. See salford.

That is multiple ex footballers who are not the main stakeholder in the the club.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:31 am Do find the fixation on some parts of the left with knocking veterans charities a bit odd. They are there for men and women who are typically short on options at a very young age and decide to sign up for something that offers some semblance of opportunity. They then get spat out the other side in their late 20s with physical and emotional trauma that they have to deal with for the rest of their lives.

Get the fanfare and flag waving around it is a bit nauseating but the beneficiaries are the exact sort of vulnerable young people, essentially victims of an unfair society that doesn't give a sh*t about them otherwise, that deserve support from the left.

You make a good point, although i dont agree with it totally.
My view is, this country is war mad, this country loves nothing better than to invade and kill other countries people, and it always has.

The government of the day makes these wars, and uses, these young men to fight for them, usually for the gain of rich people. when the war is over, and the thousands, or sometimes millions of people have been killed, these soldiers are thrown on the scrapheap.....they were useful when they were young and fit and able to kill a load of other countries young people, but once they cant do that anymore theyre thrown away, and the government want nothing more to do with them.

Charities shouldnt have to help these vets....the government that used them to start a war should look after them. They served their country, and their country should look after them...not charity

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:31 am Do find the fixation on some parts of the left with knocking veterans charities a bit odd. They are there for men and women who are typically short on options at a very young age and decide to sign up for something that offers some semblance of opportunity. They then get spat out the other side in their late 20s with physical and emotional trauma that they have to deal with for the rest of their lives.

Get the fanfare and flag waving around it is a bit nauseating but the beneficiaries are the exact sort of vulnerable young people, essentially victims of an unfair society that doesn't give a sh*t about them otherwise, that deserve support from the left.

"Being Spat out "
Let the Left & right wing amongst us deal with supporting
them out of there own free will ,

Dont force people to support something they are not comfortable with .

B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 9:39 am The New shirt sponsored by Harry, appears to have upset all the Arsenal supporters on here.

Who is the Arsenal fan ?

Certainly not me .

“ The sole aim is to create a powerful new community that will support the best possible care for the deserving veterans of recent conflicts.”

So they’re going to support those that were involved in the North of Ireland. Tuffers has made excellent points in this thread.

I have deleted all my Social media connections with LOFC
Except here , i have blocked Emails from the club
I shall ring them next week to remove me from there
Database & those family members who have bought stuff for me over
the last 50 years of supporting this Wonderful little club .

This i cant forgive though .
It is asking me to choose between my Loyalty to my club
Or to choose loyalty to my Family & my Heritage .

There is only going to be 1 winner .

Its been Nice supporting you O's , but i think im done .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 5:06 pm I have deleted all my Social media connections with LOFC
Except here , i have blocked Emails from the club
I shall ring them next week to remove me from there
Database & those family members who have bought stuff for me over
the last 50 years of supporting this Wonderful little club .

This i cant forgive though .
It is asking me to choose between my Loyalty to my club
Or to choose loyalty to my Family & my Heritage .

There is only going to be 1 winner .

Its been Nice supporting you O's , but i think im done .

I admire your principled stand. The association of the club with the military and Empire was bad enough. Now this.

Well done Mr McClean

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 5:26 pm Well done Mr McClean

Why what has Mr McClean done to be applauded ?
Do tell

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 5:09 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 5:06 pm I have deleted all my Social media connections with LOFC
Except here , i have blocked Emails from the club
I shall ring them next week to remove me from there
Database & those family members who have bought stuff for me over
the last 50 years of supporting this Wonderful little club .

This i cant forgive though .
It is asking me to choose between my Loyalty to my club
Or to choose loyalty to my Family & my Heritage .

There is only going to be 1 winner .

Its been Nice supporting you O's , but i think im done .

I admire your principled stand. The association of the club with the military and Empire was bad enough. Now this.

I dont have a problem with players who played for the club 100+ years ago
What they did was admirable .

Modern Soldiers as in post ww2
Became a different beast altogether .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 5:06 pm I have deleted all my Social media connections with LOFC
Except here , i have blocked Emails from the club
I shall ring them next week to remove me from there
Database & those family members who have bought stuff for me over
the last 50 years of supporting this Wonderful little club .

This i cant forgive though .
It is asking me to choose between my Loyalty to my club
Or to choose loyalty to my Family & my Heritage .

There is only going to be 1 winner .

Its been Nice supporting you O's , but i think im done .

A man of principle, is something good.
good luck tuffers